Garands are still easy enough to find although from what I've seen in the market, good specimens can be very expensive depending on condition, history, etc. I think they continued to produce them throughout the 50's and I know the total # was in the millions. ....I'm sure there is a Wiki with all that info. Speaking from a personal perspective, I know it's not uncommon for folks to own one of these around the country.
You can say that again lol. I have been trying to get myself an M1 for ages. And where I live it's odd that they are moderately common, I see one in almost every gun shop but somehow they are over 2,000 dollars every time. I will eventually cave and throw a 1,500 dollar offer for a great condition one. But I been fussy with it. Finding one that was well maintnenced with light to decent barrel wear and rust can be hard considering age and of course the usage of them. They were beat during the war and beat when they became decomissioned and available to the public.
That 1911 is stunning by the way. Is that the same grip your model has? I might have to put PG13 if this thread keeps going down this route lol![]()
Now that you mention it, that is pretty ridiculous lmao. A bunch of rednecks in Montana somehow have a surplus of MP-40 German sub machine guns at the ready lol. Not only are they rare especially in America they were used by Nazis. Not many rednecks would be seeking them out. Only history buffs would. You are right that the Thompson should be in the game. It's a cult classic. Although I can attest that Thompsons are getting very rare and filthily expensive. (excess of 20,000 at times). but i'm sure people who afford flame throwers and air planes can cover it lol.I know an mp-40 was confirmed on the official website but that doesn't make that much sense to me
could the cult get there hands on surplus ww2 weapons, probably
but wouldn't it make more sense to be a m1a1 Thompson or m3 grease gun since the game takes place in America not Germany?
This is a rifle thread but if we get into SMGs, I'd reccomend the P-90, Thompson, MP5, Uzi, all the familiar faces. MP40 being confirmed shocks me but i'm with it.
The one I have is the Springfield MC Operator model just before the one pictured. That latest model has the new grips and checkered front strap (mine is smooth). Everything else is the same.Originally Posted by GeorgeFarCry96 Go to original post
Mine came with Pachmeyer grips that wrapped around the front strap. While comfortable, I never liked the look personally and have been planning to replace them with those grips in the other picture. I believe they are made by VZ.
I found a picture of what mine looks like for reference:
I narrowed down my choices to the Kimber TLE/RL2 and the MC OP. I opted for the MC OP partly due to Springfield's lifetime warranty and the reputation of their custom shop (for any work I may get done in the future). ...so glad I went with them in this purchase. It was my first Springer (my other personal guns are S&W, Ruger mostly).
My next purchase will be an M1A likely a scout model with the 18" barrel vs. the full length 22". I live in California and with limitations on magazine sizes and such, it makes more sense for me. I also like the history of it. ......plus it doesn't look "scary" so its not really on their radar.
Even though I'll be limited to 10rnd mags, the .308 (7.62x51) is a powerful cartridge. Its really a versatile platform with excellent accuracy even with just the stock iron sights.
As someone who lives in MA I feel your pain. CA is brutal from what ive heard. I know here in MA they banned bump stocks and are working on banning the AR-15 in general and other rifles like it. Even Semi Auto ones are on the radar. I kinda want to move to new hampshire because of it.I narrowed down my choices to the Kimber TLE/RL2 and the MC OP. I opted for the MC OP partly due to Springfield's lifetime warranty and the reputation of their custom shop (for any work I may get done in the future). ...so glad I went with them in this purchase. It was my first Springer (my other personal guns are S&W, Ruger mostly).
My next purchase will be an M1A likely a scout model with the 18" barrel vs. the full length 22". I live in California and with limitations on magazine sizes and such, it makes more sense for me. I also like the history of it. ......plus it doesn't look "scary" so its not really on their radar.
Even though I'll be limited to 10rnd mags, the .308 (7.62x51) is a powerful cartridge. Its really a versatile platform with excellent accuracy even with just the stock iron sights.
I think I actually prefer your model of 1911 as pictured. The rubber grip that wraps around looks more comfortable and tactical. Both are awesome though. The 1911 is just a tried and true icon. Gotta love the design of it.
The M1A is awesome too, I was close to suggesting it in this thread for FC5 lol. My next gun will be a rifle as well. I currently have a Smith and Wesson .38 special J frame revolver. It only holds 5 rounds but it can handle +P .38 so it's more than enough for personal defense. Not so much a range gun but it's so small and light you can put it in almsot any pocket comfortably. It's ideal for every day carrying.
For my next gun I'm leaning towards a WWI/WWII era rifle, either a springfield M1903 or a M1 Grand. Something vintage, American and Wooden stock. I love WWII history and study it often and wouldn't mind having it as a historical piece for my wall.
Believe it or not, CA isn't as bad as some other states / cities have it but its still bad enough.Originally Posted by GeorgeFarCry96 Go to original post
I have a S&W 629 6" .44 Magnum (N-frame if my memory serves me). Great gun I picked up used about 30 years ago. The owner bought it new, fired 1 cylinder full and packed it away until it sold it to me. When I got it I put some Pachmeyer decelerator grips on it which make it an all-day shooter.
I can't hit crap with it but it was more for entertainment than practicality.
I remember seeing several K98s in my local store a few years ago for relatively cheap. The Garands I was looking at are upwards of 2-3k. ....eeeek. I should've bought one when they were still in the low hundreds.
The great thing about the M1A is that I can get one new, it doesn't have the pistol grip or other items that make it an "assault rifle" (smh) so it still retains the mag release and design / functionality. ....it's also not on the radar (so to speak) since it just looks like a classic rifle which I guess it really is.
I haven't purchased a weapon (oops, firearm) here in Calif. in a GOOD number of years, so haven't tracked prices and/or availability. So it appears I should feel fortunate that I have two Garands - one via my late father-in-law, and the other via the old NRA/DOD surplus purchase program. Both in very good condition btw.Originally Posted by Kean_1 Go to original post
Very nice. It's an interesting part of history and even more cool that you have a piece of that.Originally Posted by MikeWeeks Go to original post
Yeah, with the advent of the internet it helped change things with pricing and availability of guns, ammo and acc's. That's actually how I got my 1911 (MC Op) several years ago. I couldn't find them anywhere locally and even had a hard time online. I eventually found a shop in Kentucky with about six of them. I made the purchase, set up the transfer to a local shop and did the ppwk when it arrived.
I always prefer to support local business but when they don't have what I want or they blatantly try to price gouge me, I'm glad I have the internet as an option.
....hey, just what you see pal.Originally Posted by GRAW2ROBZ Go to original post
Sorry Mac! Just what you see on the shelf! (I'm paraphrasing).Originally Posted by GRAW2ROBZ Go to original post![]()
Now that I think about it. 40 watts??!! Hell, I seen night light bulbs that were brighter than that!
All I've got left (sold the rest) is a full size Tanfoglio 10mm auto, and a Taurus 24/7 .45 ACP compact. If I've ever got the money to waste.................I'd like to get a Taurus Raging Bull 5" in .454 Casull. To keep the bunnies under control, of course!![]()
The last time I read about a collector who was conidering buying an MP-40 ( a year or so ago) the gun was valued at $10,000. Add the $200 tax stamp and yea that's an investment. The MP-40 was a common German SMG. It did it's purpose and was carried quite a bit at least several soldiers in a squad during WWII. The best SMG which was present from 1943 was the Sturmgewehr 44. (You might have seen Brad Pitt carry one in the movie Fury.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44 It was a more controllable Machine Gun although it was catagorized under "Rifle" in the German armaments.Originally Posted by ManticButton Go to original post
I grew up in S CA and it was a fine place to live during the 50s, 60s and 70s. Since then though it's gone to heck. Too many liberals in control of the state govt. My wife and I left there in 2005 and moved to NE Wash. Basically to God's front door. Where firearms and folks who love them are free and most of the population as like-minded individuals. (Although not every locale is ideal - there's a few nuts in the mix here as well).Originally Posted by GeorgeFarCry96 Go to original post
A buddy of mine has a Springfield M1903 and a M-1 Garand, as well as numerous other weapons. I, myself, tried a Garand back in the 80s and it was a fine rifle; but I eventually resold it to a different buddy of mine. Although I'd consider buying another one - a Tanker Garand. Bought a Colt 1911 when I was stationed in Mobile and kept that for a while. Had an FFL license to deal in firearms then during the 80s through '94 when I let it lapse. I carry now - daily, a Sig P938. Which is a small 1911 in 9mm. However since I have small hands it fits my grip perfectly and it's with or near me 24-7.
I was fortunate to be at an Estate sale down the road from me a couple of years ago. Picked up a Ruger 10-22 with a wooden stock with Scope and very low serial number (which put it's manufacture around the '60s, for less than $200. I also got a Springfield Armory M6 which I got for less than $200. I guess knowing your weapons of interest and having reserched them usually comes in handy! Of course I paid for them at the auction and then dealt with a nearby FFL dealer to transfer them to me.
I've found when I was buying and selling that there's nothing unusual with having numerous dealers outside of CA or WA for that matter to do business with. I know Bud's Gun Shop very well and have recently bought from them as well. A couple of years ago the local Air Force Base Exchange started dealing in firearms which means any weapon bought there (through them as the dealer who handles all the paperwork, etc., means that qualified buyers (vet's, retiree's or Active Duty members) both get an inexpensive weapon of their choice and don't have to pay sales tax. A plus in both areas.