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You know the days where revenge actually protected you not just gived you 5 sec longer life time....
the days where you wasn't spammed by unblockables all day from everyone from all sides...
the days when you could actually stagger someone with Light attacks while he was charging up his unblockable because there wasnt 50 shades of Hyperarmor
at the games current state Revenge does not really worth anything.... hell i would say we even could bring back the old Revenge mode slightly tweeked of course.. with the amount of hyperarmor and unblockables flying around it would not be that OP....
im seriously just thinking on dumping all the revenge stats on all my gear and put everything in all the others.... revenge is a JOKE right now...
Revenge was made as a "Buff" when your getting Ganked... but its so bad right now it barelly even helps you in a 1v1 when ou activate it lol when you ganked its like its not even there...
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I don't miss the days that people were stronger 1v3-4 than they were 1v1, that was bs, I don't miss the days people could be on it more or less permanently and where one person could wipe an elimination team that has so far outplayed theirs.
If you are 1vx in elimination it is because your team got outplayed, in skirmish, dominion or tribute because you ran into or stayed in a bad situation and in neither case do you deserve a super saiyan I win button which is what it was then. In its current state it let's you 1v2, it knocks over people and gives you the chance to survive 1vx another few seconds until help comes or creates space to get away, in that case revenge is in the best place it has ever been right now. If you want revenge because you want guaranteed 1v1 because the power of it makes anything else suicidal there is a game called duel.
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All of that would not be true anymore thx to all the unblockables and CCs and hyper armor that are flying around....Originally Posted by CandleInTheDark Go to original post
if you can 1v2 with revenge right now you just playing againts players worse then you... any half decent people will gank on you and start spamming unblockables from different sides that takes down the defense you get in revenge under like a few seconds and then your dead.....
revenge was originaly made as a tool to help you when outnumbered... the ONLY thing it does right now is give you a single free AOE knockdown aaaaaaaand thats it that other stuff that are there is like not even there its sooo bad
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Last night I was last alive while breaking, and got ganked by 4 people at once. I was able to get revenge twice, and killed 3 but the last guy who was on one bar of health killed me. It was one of the most intense fights I’ve been in with this game, and damn was it fun. If revenge was at its Season 1 strength, odds are I would’ve done that multiple times. I don’t enjoy that. I agree revenge in its current state needs to be buffed slightly, and actually work properly such as knocking opponents back on activation and stopping CC moves such as pancake flip on LB or demons embrace. It also needs to be activated during those animations, as of now you can’t.
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The only thing better they could do with revenge is get rid of it all together. A mechanic that rewards bad play such as that I listed above, your team being wiped or trying to 1vx in an objective based game, does not belong in a competitive team game.Originally Posted by Zordrage Go to original post
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The feat that generates revenge from attacking should go. Defend an assassins light spam for 6 or 7 hits then attack and he blocks and gets a parry, boom, revenge.
Revenge by a ledge is pretty much game over for everyone too with revenge now, you can GB through lights, heavies, HA.
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I watch a dude on YT called faraam that absolutely mops ganks on him with revenge. and he does it on several different heros. he doesn't just play 1. So I don't buy revenge being useless due to unblockable spam.
Revenge is a bandaid mechanic for ganks because there is nothing that actively discourages ganking. Making revenge god mode again just to handle new heros/new combos isn't the solution and only further doubles down on one of 4v4's biggest issues.
Revenge is fine as is. the devs need to make changes to discourage ganking. maybe something like having point bleeding if you don't have people actively defending your points. idk.
Dominion is incredibly flawed because you don't spend much time holding or defending points. if feats weren't even a thing people would probably just ignore points all together considering how easy it is to swing a losing match in your favor. (I think it's cool and all to turn around a losing match but it's waaaaay too easy and frankly makes people feel like the effort in holding a point is basically meaningless.)
