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[David_gorda]

Shieldbash and shield uppercut doesnt do any damage at all. If he use the shieldbash damage feat then he does good damage with it but there are alot feats that are overpowered in this Game.

[KotoKuraken]

I have no idea how he did it, but it was 60 damage without a doubt, even without that damage, without a parry he is such a safe attacker. I'm not sure how to punish without a light parry, whiff recovery is nearly instant.

Conq is actually weaker than he used to be. He flows better, that's for sure, but he doesn't have the tools he used to. He can't guardbreak you by blocking anymore, he has to actually deflect. His recovery on shield bash is the same as Warden's Shoulder Bash, except he can't cancel into guardbreak. You can dodge these shield bashes, and since he doesn't have hyperarmor you can do almost anything to push him out of shield bash.

If the Conq is bashy mashy, you can be more aggressive with lights and quick attacks, or dodge out of it. If the Conq is a parry god, feint and you'll be able to guardbreak them easily since they have to charge up a heavy (which they can no longer counter gb out of)

[DireNazgul]

I believe everything done to the conqueror needed to be done. We just have to relearn how to fight them.

[The_B0G_]

Conq is actually weaker than he used to be. He flows better, that's for sure, but he doesn't have the tools he used to. He can't guardbreak you by blocking anymore, his to actually deflect. His recovery on shield bash is the same as Warden's Shoulder Bash, except he can't cancel into guardbreak. You can dodge these shield bashes, and since he doesn't have hyperarmor you can do almost anything to push him out of shield bash.

If the Conq is bashy mashy, you can be more aggressive with lights and quick attacks, or dodge out of it. If the Conq is a parry god, feint and you'll be able to guardbreak them easily since they have to charge up a heavy (which they can no longer counter gb out of)

I assumed his damage was from his feat, but its a passive feat that is very strong.

He can't cancel into GB but his light after shield bash whiff is nearly instant.

[KotoKuraken]

I assumed his damage was from his feat, but its a passive feat that is very strong.

He can't cancel into GB but his light after shield bash whiff is nearly instant.

The light is supposed to be nearly instant, you get a light after a bash, just like with Warden, Lawbro, Warlord, Nobushi, and now Kensei. The feat does add more damage, but only in 4v4s and never in that amount. You might be seeing them come from the event, where the enemies are now even more powerful than their ingame PvP equivalents

[The_B0G_]

The light is supposed to be nearly instant, you get a light after a bash, just like with Warden, Lawbro, Warlord, Nobushi, and now Kensei. The feat does add more damage, but only in 4v4s and never in that amount. You might be seeing them come from the event, where the enemies are now even more powerful than their ingame PvP equivalents

No it was regular game, 60 damage dominion, he didn't have revenge, maybe I got a debuff right before I was hit, not sure.

I'm fine with fast light after a shield bash hit, but a fast light after a shield bash whiff is kinda bs.

[Baturai]

MAke shieldcharge punishable. ****in anoying **** skill

[PanzerShrekonin]

Uh shield bash is punishable. You dodge at the right time, you get a free guard break. Its especially so with Raider who can get a GB on a dodge. I counter the Conq all the time. o.o Just dodge backwards at the right moment, you get a GB.

[The_B0G_]

Uh shield bash is punishable. You dodge at the right time, you get a free guard break. Its especially so with Raider who can get a GB on a dodge. I counter the Conq all the time. o.o Just dodge backwards at the right moment, you get a GB.

I've tried it numerous times, mostly on cent, always get hit with a light when I try to GB.

Heavy feint into shield bash, I dodge the bash, and get hit with a light if I try to GB or heavy.

[bob333e]

I've been avoiding PvP lately (only playing vs AI for orders and playing Test Your Metal to enjoy some time in the game), because of Conq's exploit. I think they fixed it, not sure.

The exploit is (or was) infinite shield bash which you cannot get out of and it'll push you across the entire map till Conq is out of stamina.

The only Conqueror I've been fighting regularly is Stone, and cannot compare him to human players because the bosses don't play by our rules.

Still, I spectate Conq players when I die, and they do seem to have the shield bash rather too fast. And recovery is insane.

Coupled with the heavy softfeint thing and his insane dodge tracking / distance, yeah he's.... he's the new cancer.