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    Faction War and War Map Bonuses

    I'm going to be brutally honest. These are far too easy to obtain for the more popular factions and almost impossible to reclaim/ keep for weaker ones (without that been their main focus). The faction balance is horrific, I dont see the point in playing any faction other than Vikings now. You need to rebalance war assets based on faction participation.

    I get you hate Samurai with a passion but please at least pretend to like us.

    Can you not sort out the score balance based on the match results? I'm sick of been the only samurai player on a team.
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    wait theres map bonuses?
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    Originally Posted by Kryltic Go to original post
    I'm going to be brutally honest. These are far too easy to obtain for the more popular factions and almost impossible to reclaim/ keep for weaker ones (without that been their main focus). The faction balance is horrific, I dont see the point in playing any faction other than Vikings now. You need to rebalance war assets based on faction participation.

    I get you hate Samurai with a passion but please at least pretend to like us.

    Can you not sort out the score balance based on the match results? I'm sick of been the only samurai player on a team.
    This has come up on the Den a few times and I think you have a couple misinterpretations of what is going on within the faction war.

    Firstly you talk about more popular factions as a samurai, the samurai have,for at least the last three seasons, had the highest population, without fail.Vikings when they won season 1 had the lowest and I believe at the start of last season also and have always tended to have less players. That is potentially part of a problem for you individually because assets are weighted on active participants in each faction, yours, asa samurai, mean less than a viking player's if equal proportions of each faction were engaged in manually deploying assets and makingsmart decisions in doing so it would be equally weighted, the devs can't control active (as in playing) players who don't engage with the faction war as a whole.

    It isn't just that weighting though, they also already balance assets based on performance in a match, it was part of why the vikings were pretty dominant in last season as the statistics showed that vikings were getting awarded, before weighting, more assets per match based around performance. So it is the quality of player also and with the conspiracy theories, the better players have been faction hopping while some less engaged have gone to whoever won last and have created a self fulfilling prophecy around the players that have stuck to one faction in that regard.

    Originally Posted by JadeBosson. Go to original post
    wait theres map bonuses?
    Yeah, there are bonuses for assets (if posted on a castle you own) xp and steel now.
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    oh that's neat
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    I know everyone says the Vikings are the lowest and samurai the most but I too never see it. I took count of each faction I played with today on Xbox. Knights 72 Vikings 56 Samurai 36. It quite rare on my end to see samurai. I am sceptical about what is being done with the faction war and how it's handled. It seems you get the same no matter where you place only difference is if you win or lose you get more or less troops.
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    Sorry but I rarely see other Samurai players, its almost always Viking players I see. A few knights and once in a blue moon I'll meet a fellow Samurai player.

    For the last few months it feels like the Samurai faction spend all our time simply trying to hold on to what few territories we own and then desperately trying to reclaim them when we do eventually lose.

    People are saying it looks like Vikings are heavily favoured and the Samurai are neglected because they are. Unless Ubisoft are prepared to show us this data I'm going to stick with what I've seen and others have agreed with. I just feel it's pointless sticking with Samurai as we won't win anything and soon others will end up getting extra xp for our troubles.
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    Maybe i see samurai players like every 3-4 th match.... but i constantly see a bunch of vikings and knights all day...

    so i call that Statistic that samurai is the most played BS......
    Also samurais getting cornered in the map again from both other factions.... like Always.....
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    You have anecdotal evidence based on who you meet in your region, rep and skill bracket which is no more or less valid than any time I see 5-6 samurai in a match, they have the numbers based on who is playing worldwide...yeah I'm going with the people who have the hard data.
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    Originally Posted by CandleInTheDark Go to original post
    You have anecdotal evidence based on who you meet in your region, rep and skill bracket which is no more or less valid than any time I see 5-6 samurai in a match, they have the numbers based on who is playing worldwide...yeah I'm going with the people who have the hard data.
    Devs can say anything you know... just to get out of stuff...
    playing Games too long now to trust any Devs.....
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    I also see way more Vikings and Knights than Samurai in my matchmaking. Samurai are the least encountered in my experienced and I don't know why that is. I'm in UK so maybe the majority of Samurai players are from completely opposite timezones to me like Oceania, Asia, etc.

    But my personal experience aside, the way I know the faction war works in terms of weighting assets all indicators point to the fact that Samurai are the largest because we can't make any head way. Just look at our performance in Seasons 3, 4 and now 5. We're often getting crushed by the smaller factions whose assets count for more than ours. Samurai are bloated with players who have zero interest in being competitive in the faction war and that acts like a lead weight for us.

    A smaller but more focused/organised force beats a larger but more disorganised force. The majority of our players probably joined Samurai cos Samurai are "kewl" and they're either newbies or they couldn't give a toss about the faction war. If the devs don't implement a way to auto kick inactive players out of the equation for faction asset weighting then the largest faction will always be screwed.

    I think it's highly likely the Samurai won't be seeing our unique territories (the bonus granting buildings) for the remainder of the Season. The Knights and Vikes will park on them and their assets count for twice as many as Sams so they have all the potential to be unmoveable unless they turn on each other. This Season will be decided by how often the Knights and Vikes fight each other. The Samurai have no chance to dictate anything the way things are. Quite frankly the Faction War is hugely unfair right now in my opinion.
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