Conq Mains Fill Me In! | Forums

[KotoKuraken]

If I had to guess, it was probably due to always having Superior Block on all blocks, which made for a guaranteed guardbreak and guaranteed heavy.
Another reason, if I had to guess, is probably because he can no longer guardbreak while charging; he can only bash, which pushes the enemy away and only benefits Conq if the enemy happens to run into a wall

[RenegadeTX2000]

Yeah i just finished reading it... I don't agree with him at all. Maybe the heavies being utilized more and slower push granting a heavy but other than that no.

His light push on the other hand needs to go in some way, shape, or form. It's too strong and brain dead at the moment. It either needs to keep that speed but whiff recovery being bad so anybody that dodges it gets a free GB. Or slowing the speed down on it so it's not warlord headbutt speed. but keeping same whiff recovery. Something needs to give on that move imo.

Conqeuror is strong defense and hard hitter? more like strong defense, hard hitter, harasser. Yeah his meta is involving a ton of lights. but this guys post is talking about ending matches quickly and fights taking too long. NAH YOU DON'T GET TO MELT PEOPLE LOOL! He's meant to be calculating, abiding his time for openings and striking cautiously. This man wants to end people within 20 seconds Centurion style.


Slow moves should have faster recovery times on whiff and Fast moves should have longer recovery times on whiff. That's how it should be implemented across the board.

[ArchDukeInstinct]

not many good Conqs sadly. Just like how there aren't many Highlanders. I wish this game had a real ranking system like other fighters. So you could see in game who the best players were.

Gee whiz, results are not matching up to Renegade's expectations that Conqueror was going to be "in the top 2" from spamming shield bash alone so it must be that Conqueror players are just bad.

Or maybe it's because shield bash is not a 50/50 like he claims in another thread, highly telegraphed, unfeignable 500ms attacks with 0 tracking after it's initiated are not difficult to react to (even on console), and the vast majority of classes with dodge attacks can get easy, guaranteed damage on reaction anytime you do a shield bash as Conqueror.

[RenegadeTX2000]

Gee whiz, results are not matching up to Renegade's expectations that Conqueror was going to be "in the top 2" from spamming shield bash alone so it must be that Conqueror players are just bad.

Or maybe it's because shield bash is not a 50/50 like he claims in another thread, highly telegraphed, unfeignable 500ms attacks with 0 tracking after it's initiated are not difficult to react to (even on console), and the vast majority of classes with dodge attacks can get easy, guaranteed damage on reaction anytime you do a shield bash as Conqueror.

Play me... lol I've been added and challenged. Haven't lost with my 3day conq yet in a best of series. I read half of the decisions you guys make in actual game play and I'm completely confident none of anybody in here can actually contest me in a 1v1.

Charging a heavy in neutral is TERRIBLE. If I see a conq doing that vs me, i'm blowing him up all day.

[RenegadeTX2000]

Gee whiz, results are not matching up to Renegade's expectations that Conqueror was going to be "in the top 2" from spamming shield bash alone so it must be that Conqueror players are just bad.

Or maybe it's because shield bash is not a 50/50 like he claims in another thread, highly telegraphed, unfeignable 500ms attacks with 0 tracking after it's initiated are not difficult to react to (even on console), and the vast majority of classes with dodge attacks can get easy, guaranteed damage on reaction anytime you do a shield bash as Conqueror.

I want to see your reactions like you are claiming... Not difficult to react to. Get on right now lol

[ArchDukeInstinct]

Play me... lol I've been added and challenged. Haven't lost with my 3day conq yet in a best of series. I read half of the decisions you guys make in actual game play and I'm completely confident none of anybody in here can actually contest me in a 1v1.

Charging a heavy in neutral is TERRIBLE. If I see a conq doing that vs me, i'm blowing him up all day.

Ok so basically in lieu of making arguments to back up your claims (like for example how shield bash is a 50/50 if it can't even be feigned into something else let alone a counter move to the forced reaction), you're going to try to **** wave and challenge people to 1v1s as if they would actually prove something about the class.

[ArchDukeInstinct]

I want to see your reactions like you are claiming... Not difficult to react to. Get on right now lol

Seriously? Everyone above a complete beginner can dodge shield bash consistently. Why do you think reacting to shield bash is some kind of impressive feat?

[RenegadeTX2000]

Gee whiz, results are not matching up to Renegade's expectations that Conqueror was going to be "in the top 2" from spamming shield bash alone so it must be that Conqueror players are just bad.

Or maybe it's because shield bash is not a 50/50 like he claims in another thread, highly telegraphed, unfeignable 500ms attacks with 0 tracking after it's initiated are not difficult to react to (even on console), and the vast majority of classes with dodge attacks can get easy, guaranteed damage on reaction anytime you do a shield bash as Conqueror.

Shield bash against whiffed attacks.

Shield bash to beat out slow attacks on reaction.

Shield bash after blocking a light.

Shield bash after landing a heavy or light.

Dashing forward just to get reaction out of opponent.


He has 3-4 different delay times on when he can actually initiate shield bash. Delaying the time he actually uses it etc.

That's just the good of it....

Then you got safe play with all guard stance, if you see opponent breathe on you, you can zone to reset neutral. It's EXTREMELY hard to bait him into parrying zone because if you go for heavy and cancel to bait zone that window of parry is extremely difficult. The way I do it anyway.

Much more but yeah I can do that and win pretty much... With of course my own reactions on actually playing solid fundamentals on top of it.

Actually I have a question for you. Who does Conq lose to and why?

[RenegadeTX2000]

It's not just spamming shield bash. it's using it for a purpose. Take advantage of it's speed and actual distance. Of course if somebody spams it you can react. But play someone like me that uses it in tactical situations... They will make you rage quit.

[RenegadeTX2000]

Ok so basically in lieu of making arguments to back up your claims (like for example how shield bash is a 50/50 if it can't even be feigned into something else let alone a counter move to the forced reaction), you're going to try to **** wave and challenge people to 1v1s as if they would actually prove something about the class.

Well according to "results" that actually demand game play. It does prove something loooool. Don't back pedal mr. results man

I got some results right here... a big losing streak if you play me while i'm conq. =-O