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[ChampionRuby50g]

Lol, you and both arch suck each others nuts. But it's fine. both of you are wrong about conq anyway. Also I responded to his "Vocab" comment. Lol Nice way to pick and choose.

Can you explain exactly, how I am wrong about Conq?

For example, today was fighting two Conqs in dominion at the same time and was dodging both shield bashes more often than not. But that’s just my experience on below average net

[Oupyz]

why u people speak about dominion , 1v1 is all that matters when it comes to balance :/

[Devils-_-legacy]

Why would you balance only on 1 v 1 when dominion is the most popular playlist and most heros have cc moves?

[RenegadeTX2000]

These are the kind of mature responses I've come to expect from Renegade.

And what exactly do bank accounts have to do with that? You're complaining that someone suggested you don't have the most extensive of vocabularies but you brought that on yourself by constantly degrading "talk on paper" as being useless. Maybe if you bothered to read stuff you wouldn't have a small child's vocabulary. On a side note, I'm honestly surprised that you didn't ask me to 1v1 you in Scrabble.

The fact that you choose to do no research or read anything is important to the topic at large, you'll say things like "if the shield bash starts, it's too late to dodge", had you bothered to do your research you would find frame data showing shield bash is 534ms from start to impact and that the average human reaction time is approximately 250ms. I recorded a video earlier of me playing against another Conqueror and as per usual the few shield bashes thrown from neutral were not very difficult to dodge and I typically started the dodge roughly 264ms after the unblockable icon shows up.

So you're seriously telling me that an alpha male such as yourself can't even keep up with the average person in reaction time?
You got the big bucks but you got a Walmart modem, my man? Wtf?



Another facile attempt at a "gotcha" from King Alpha himself. Unfortunately (for you) I never said that you weren't saying it before or that you only now picked up the idea that Conqueror was S tier. Maybe if you had a decent reading comprehension you would have noticed that but "talk on paper" is for suckers, right? What I'm saying is that you've changed your reasoning for claiming that. First it was based on incorrect statements such as "shield bash is a 50/50", that was disproven, now you're basing it on "well other people are saying it too!!!!".

So basically you've resorted to sad appeals to authority and ad populum fallacies.



My point, which obviously went over your head, is that given your logic for Conqueror, you'd have to agree that Kensei and Berseker are S tier too, is that true? Can we get it on the record that RenegadeTX2000, King Alpha himself, believes Berseker and Kensei are S Tier?



Who ever said we had more credibility than top players? Maybe you've been hallucinating? It would explain a lot.



Ah yes all I did was call you names and attack your vocabulary. I never pointed out your numerous invalid assertions or gave a decently sized list of areas where Conqueror has weaknesses or is even the worst in. You then nitpick one out of many points and gave the embarrassingly moronic retort of doing a heavy into full block feign in order to cancel the recovery from a light attack even though there's far less stamina intensive ways of doing that and the problem still exists, I then proceeded to absolutely cream you on that point and since then you've pretended like none of it ever happened.



And why do that exactly? Are you hoping that Reddit will fight your battle for you instead? What would probably happen is an actually civil discussion will arise and I'm sure some people will disagree with me but they're not going to constantly call themselves "alphas", allege that their bank account is larger, and completely ignore every single point that I've made.

However, I have a superior idea, I think you should go and make a post on reddit and tell all of them how they are betas, your bank account is bigger than all of theirs, and that framedata and other "talk on paper" is useless.



But I won't because I do what I want to do and I don't take orders from randoms on the internet.

I'm only choosing to respond to certain subjects because the rest is this head to head battle you keep trying to drag me back into... Going back to a point I made when we first started speaking about this subject, that you keep constantly going back to.

I no longer care about your opinion as it actually doesn't matter vs a whole PC communities tier list that's widely accepted as the up to date version of a tier list. Then you call people randoms like you aren't one yourself. At this point our talk doesn't matter anymore how many times do i have to say that? Everytime you speak it's you trying to assert yourself on you being the end all and be all. You aren't the Messiah of Conqueror lol. "You said, she said, I said, drama." then I bring up a tier list that's widely accepted and then it's a problem.

Conq has weaknesses but he's still S tier. lol

You can bring up as many points as you want, but you can't beat... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

[RenegadeTX2000]

Your opinion or a vast majority of opinion including Barace?

It's not in your favor lol. You can say "it's not hard to react to." or whatever you want, i'm just gonna keep posting what's factual and widely accepted from top players. You can do you though, I'm not mad.

When you talk about people coming in the forums to complain, talking about light spam etc those don't really hold weight to the official tier list. But there it is again

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

[PanzerShrekonin]

1. Who the hell is Barace? Sounds like the sith lord from Star Wars: The Old Republic.

2. Widely accepted community tier list? No. Its a widely accepted REDDIT tierlist. Reddit is just 4chan with less nudity.

3. There is no such thing as an official tier list. Rofl. ITs all opinionated.

[ChampionRuby50g]

Your opinion or a vast majority of opinion including Barace?

It's not in your favor lol. You can say "it's not hard to react to." or whatever you want, i'm just gonna keep posting what's factual and widely accepted from top players. You can do you though, I'm not mad.

When you talk about people coming in the forums to complain, talking about light spam etc those don't really hold weight to the official tier list. But there it is again

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

Still waiting to be told how I was wrong about Conq. I got all day.
Also interested to know how I was “sucking nuts”.

But do you also not realise that some players would find the bash “not hard to react to” and that’s a fact for them? Or because you believe it isn’t that all these players are lying when they say they can counter it?

[Specialkha]

I would not say that conq is stronger than PK or Kensei now, but he is clearly stronger than most of the cast. Does that put him in S Tier? Probably, we should give it some time, but he will probably be S tier and stay in it.

[PanzerShrekonin]

I would not say that conq is stronger than PK or Kensei now, but he is clearly stronger than most of the cast. Does that put him in S Tier? Probably, we should give it some time, but he will probably be S tier and stay in it.

He falls to anyone with a side attack or a dodge attack. So Riader, Warden, Orochi, etc etc.

[Specialkha]

He falls to anyone with a side attack or a dodge attack. So Riader, Warden, Orochi, etc etc.

Not really if you time well your shield uppercut, that skill has great tracking. And if it does not work, let them attack and use your flail uppercut.