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  1. #11
    I haven't played them but I'm going to take a guess that they are not as complicated in regards to various interactions between characters etc.

    Yes, the game isn't perfect but its not as bad as you seem to think or suggest. Regardless of how you feel, the amount of work and changes that have occurred is still incredible especially when you consider the fact they are also introducing dedicated servers etc.
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    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    Try Blizzard's game, or if you think that is because Blizzard is a much bigger company, try Warhammer Vermintide,or DBZ Fighterz. But it is also true none of these game were released as broken as For honor, there is that.
    Blizzard's games are also buggy messes, vermintide is PVE only, DBZ fighterz is 1v1 2D, I mean does any of those games have something in common with for honor aside from featuring online gameplay?

    Also gear does not matter as much as you say. Skill does 90% of a fair fight.
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    Originally Posted by Armosias Go to original post
    Blizzard's games are also buggy messes, vermintide is PVE only, DBZ fighterz is 1v1 2D, I mean does any of those games have something in common with for honor aside from featuring online gameplay?

    Also gear does not matter as much as you say. Skill does 90% of a fair fight.
    Now that was a Combo Breaker...
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    Originally Posted by Armosias Go to original post
    Blizzard's games are also buggy messes, vermintide is PVE only, DBZ fighterz is 1v1 2D, I mean does any of those games have something in common with for honor aside from featuring online gameplay?

    Also gear does not matter as much as you say. Skill does 90% of a fair fight.
    Buggy mess? Do you even play at these games? Ofc, you can't fully rid a game of bugs, but still, FH has far more bug than all those games combined...

    And all those games have something in common with each other, except FH, they are polished where FH is far from it. Did Ubisoft even tested FH before releasing it? Most of issues that ppl in beta had are still there, 1 year later.
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    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    Buggy mess? Do you even play at these games? Ofc, you can't fully rid a game of bugs, but still, FH has far more bug than all those games combined...

    And all those games have something in common with each other, except FH, they are polished where FH is far from it. Did Ubisoft even tested FH before releasing it? Most of issues that ppl in beta had are still there, 1 year later.
    Which issues? Tell me please.

    Connection got much better if compared to release, and in 4-6 weeks I guess we will have dedicated Servers up and running. Alot of Bugs and Glitches were fixed (Flicker, GB on steps, ladder bug, one-hit-kill glitch, etc.). Which "most of issues" are you talking about?

    Oh and btw every Blizzard game I can remember had to be patched and updated alot to be really polished. E.g. every Diablo, WoW, HotS, Hearthstone. None of these games released without issues.
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    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    Try Blizzard's game, or if you think that is because Blizzard is a much bigger company, try Warhammer Vermintide,or DBZ Fighterz. But it is also true none of these game were released as broken as For honor, there is that.
    none of blizzards games have ever been balanced.
    WoW has always been plagued with flavor of the month builds. and even bigger issues occasionally.
    hearthstone balance is borked because cards are rng.
    And overwatch has been a mess from the get go. Have you even played it recently? mercy has been constantly changed. Before her they broke doom fist. I can go on.

    DBFZ is brand new and you can't accurately state the game is balanced. People are already understanding that there are just better assist characters. And that most are very specific to team comp. where like 4 of them can be used in any comp and massively benefit them over the niche situation another would work in.
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  7. #17
    Stability maybe a little bit better now. But in general p2p is p2p. You can spend a few days in polishing your timings against AI or your friends and failed in the first random match becasue of the host location. And this expirience could be different for all of us.

    But also, we have complicated mechanics based on timings which punishing you for each mistake. So, ppl feedback usually is Very personal and post-emotional. And it's realy big deal to balance so many different movesets and timings in hundreds combinations. And sometimes ppl just have different views on how this game should looks like. And a real issues is hiding somewhere underneath.

    I don't now why this PvP title didn't get dedicated server from a beginning, but i hope it brings more stable basement to find out real issues in existing gameplay,

    But not only a technical or mechanical issues but also a game modes. Duels is just fine. But i\m asking myself sometimes - why they not just "stole" a MOBA idea and adapt it.
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    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    Buggy mess? Do you even play at these games? Ofc, you can't fully rid a game of bugs, but still, FH has far more bug than all those games combined...

    And all those games have something in common with each other, except FH, they are polished where FH is far from it. Did Ubisoft even tested FH before releasing it? Most of issues that ppl in beta had are still there, 1 year later.
    Overwatch has had tons of bugs. Doom fist had 13? at some point. Genji still has quite a handful.
    WoW being bug free is hilarious.
    DBFZ might seem absent of bugs at the moment to you. But players are reporting not getting unlocks when they met the requirements.
    Don't even get me started on it's MM. while it's a deal better than the beta it still has frequent disconnect issues and server dropping the lobbies.
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    Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
    Buggy mess? Do you even play at these games? Ofc, you can't fully rid a game of bugs, but still, FH has far more bug than all those games combined...

    And all those games have something in common with each other, except FH, they are polished where FH is far from it. Did Ubisoft even tested FH before releasing it? Most of issues that ppl in beta had are still there, 1 year later.
    WoW main here and overwatch player since release. Have you played any of blizzards games recently or what ?? Overwatch has been goin down hill since release with stupid balancing changes ( especially on mercy ) and the horrible horrible bugs that come with the patches that completely make hero’s in the game obsolete. A huge example is Doomfist, a few weeks into his release and they nerf him into oblivion and adding countless bugs giving him the lowest pick rate. Thing is these bugs were posted through out the forums and reddit even videos on YouTube and blizzard didn’t notice a single post on DF bugs till months after and he’s still bugged to hell.

    And don’t even get me started on the buggy, unbalanced shtty pvp mess WoW is now I honestly don’t even know why I stil play that game but trust me I don’t play as much as I used to
    To. Never compare balancing with blizzard, they might be a big company but they’re a shadow of their forme selfs now and embarrassment to Its past self.
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    Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
    Meh, people these days. First they demand changes. Second the changes have to be thought through and balanced. Third thing is changes ASAP nao! Then a generic developer (it is like this in every pvp game I have played and these are alot) actually DOES changes. Fourth thing is people complain about pick one: it being so late or not thought through or not balanced.

    Just think about your attitude. Ubi in this case rewrote ALOT of code to get dedicated servers in the game. It makes no sense at all to complain about this being "so late" because it takes months if not years to completely overhaul a network model. Then add in all the things we got parallely, new heroes, gear stat revamp, new cosmetics, new maps, balance changes besides bugfixes. And they even start to release the reworks of the OG heroes.

    Are you serious with your complaints? I can only say I am impressed how much they did in 1 year.
    Yeah ... i see so many people crying about parry changes - they are so dependent on this unblanaced mechanic.
    But it's not their fault - we played the game over a year in such a state, it will be weird for most people ( not for me really - since i learned to play with and without parry and without GB after parry)

    The thing is, those who complain now - didn't know what they complained about in first place (befor the changes where announced)
    Many people don't understand the chars, mechanics etc. - thats why they are complaining.
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