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    Originally Posted by Tyrjo Go to original post
    Parry changes does hit her. No more parry, GB, charged Ram's Headbutt and OOS punish. Given how hard it is for her to get damage in, I think it is a big nerf.

    Shoulder Pin is a very high risk, low reward move. The risk is even greater now that there are so many soft feints in the game. You just never know if an attack is real or not until it's to late.
    No they don't hit her that much - just use her superior block on dodges to get GBs or Shoulder Pin + Dash light.
    Low reward? 43 dmg is low reward????
    It is easier than any deflect and reward much more then any deflect
    Tzz - No Risk no Reward dude.

    A GB is low reward? Block dodge -> GB -> Ram's Head GG good dmg .... You are Welcome.
    It is ridiculous how dependent on Parry into GB the player base is xDD.

    That's why i learn to play with and without parries :'D

    Yeah all those Aramusha and Shaman softfeint are ridiculous - but soft feints make it hard for everything.
    Parry, Block, Dodges - any defense.
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    Dont know if you play Valk but her deflect is the hardest to pull off,different timing that other Hero deflects.Shoulder Pin is indeed high risk low reward.Safer to go for a parry than focusing on timing the deflect,which is hard with all the feints now
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    Originally Posted by Warbyte- Go to original post
    Dont know if you play Valk but her deflect is the hardest to pull off,different timing that other Hero deflects.Shoulder Pin is indeed high risk low reward.Safer to go for a parry than focusing on timing the deflect,which is hard with all the feints now
    It is much easier - looks like you never played any assassin.
    My Mains are
    1. Berserk
    2. Valk
    3. Conqu
    And basically i play every char.

    Valks sup block window is nearly 2 times longer then any deflect window.

    43 dmg is a low reward?
    No parry with valk will give you this reward, also her sup block gives GB as well.
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    Well it may just be me,but i wonder if other Valk players use the Shoulder pin cause i dont use it unless i get by chance
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    Originally Posted by Warbyte- Go to original post
    Well it may just be me,but i wonder if other Valk players use the Shoulder pin cause i dont use it unless i get by chance
    The problem is, that parry into GB is not as risk and more rewarding.
    Thats a problem that many chars have, parry is just better than most of the moveset of many chars :'D - and that's why parry gets this nerf.

    Also looks like many people don't know, that you can combo a dash light attack after shoulder pin, thats 26 bleed for shoulder pin + 17 dmg for a dash light (any direction)

    Edit:
    But you need to be watch the enemies HP, becaus shoulder pins bleed does not stack, that means if the enemy bleeds a shoulder pin does not apply the 26 bleed dmg, but instead of a shoulder pin you can GB after the superior block (as long he bleeds)
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    i would exchange some damage buffs here and there for the deflect
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    Originally Posted by Warbyte- Go to original post
    i would exchange some damage buffs here and there for the deflect
    Mhh - i don't think it needs more dmg, the dmg is good.
    The only thing that could use a change, is shoulder pin bleed.
    They should make it in like this: If your enemy still bleeds and you shoulder pin, you refresh it to 26 bleed.
    That means if the enemy has 5 bleed left while you shoulder pin him, it will go up to 26 again.
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    you are really obsesed with that shoulder pin arent you
    Give her better shoulder pin damage=,hero fixed ????
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