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    Can an Ubisoft Community Manager please clarify this?

    Can Ubi-CJ, UbiSkyBear (who posted the season pass info here - https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...-5-Season-Pass) or another community manager please confirm that the three additional DLC in the season pass are in fact some kind of STORY MODE DLC and NOT a gamemode such as a wave survival defense mode like Call of Duty Zombies or sets of multiplayer maps.

    I think MANY who have seen the DLC are automatically assuming this DLC will have substantial story content or be "mini campaigns" in the vein of Blood Dragon or Valley of the Yeti.

    We are only weeks from release and very little has been revealed about what additional content outside of the core game will consist of. We know there is an editor but NO DETAILS on it. We know there is 2 player Co-op but NO DETAILS on multiplayer (or even official confirmation that it will be available). Now we are given an image of the season pass DLC with some quick ambiguous lines about the themes, but not told what that content is... even in the most basic form. Is it a story driven experience like typical Fra Cry experiences? Is it multiplayer maps? Is it a new coop mode?

    Can your marketing stop being coy and directly tell the consumer what you are offering?

    Otherwise it comes off like Ubisoft is banking on pre-orders due to misconceptions about what the season pass will consist of.

    I'm sure that's not the intent correct?

    Thank you very much.

    -JRavens
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    Ubi-Swaguchi's Avatar Community Representative
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    More information about the season pass content will be revealed in due time

    Theres still lots we want to show you and we do have plans for it. I know we say it a lot but please be patient!! It'll be worth the wait
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    Frustration

    Ok Ubisoft, you want my money for Far cry 5, you show me what I am buying, because all I am seeing is you trying to sell me a season pass with dlc that will not go with the core game, and a game I can get at half what the value is. Tell us about what the core game dlc will be (if any), tell us about the map editor. You have showed nothing about map editor. Tell us fans, the ones you so care about, what our money is buying......Or I am out.
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    I DO appreciate the response Ubi-Swaguchi, but that's an insufficient answer.

    I now regret having recommended the season pass now on social media and I'll be reverting my stance and recommending that consumers wait to purchase until they hear more details about the DLC.

    Ubisoft as a company needs to understand that the game industry is changing and sales are not the only metric. You need to build customer trust. Compare to a company like CD Projekt Red. Yes Witcher 3 was a phenomenal game, but more than that they have built a huge amount of trust with players and critics by being transparent and offering things like DLC for free. I'm not suggesting Ubisoft must mimic other companies sales tactics (not saying you should give away DLC free or completely avoid loot boxes and so on), but what I AM saying is you should be more transparent and you should struggle to build consumer trust. Something your company flat out does not do.

    "We will tell you more later" is something you community managers post over and over again and it's become more than frustrating. It's become disheartening. It's become tantamount to dishonest. I no longer trust you. I'm sorry. You must earn my trust back. I'm just one of thousands of people that post about Ubisoft products in social media and one of millions that consume that, but if you lose enough trust in people like myself then it DOES translate to lost sales opportunities and turning away from your product and company as a whole.

    I realize that these decisions come from over your head, but I think you should make this reply, this thread and the general feeling of the community on this board available to those who do make these decisions. Frankly they didn't just shoot themselves in the foot... they cut off their nose to spite their face.

    With respect.

    -JRavens
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    I think UbiSoft believes that whatever they do, things will not work out well. So they play 'I have a secret', because it is easier to say nothing about their upcoming products, then have to retract on a feature/promise they made about an unpublished game. I have read that one reason that game developers hate going to player events is because we as gamers are a pain in the butt. Nothing the developers do is right... so they just do and hope for the best. I can understand this, but it still leaves us as a community hanging. I have learned that sales/marketing will promise a prospective customer the world; but after the sale, they kind of just go away. It is then up to the implementers/developers to come through with everything promised... which usually ends up being a *****. So even though I can appreciate them not wanting to promise anything, there is no upside to their action here. So what I do is, if they say nothing, expect the worst... which is usually the case.
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    Personally, I don't always expect the worst, but I try to prevent myself from expecting a whole lot either. Expectation is the number one cause of disappointment. You expect there to be X feature because it's been a requested feature in the little bubble of the community you're in and the game doesn't have it, you're disappointed. You expect there to be certain changes to the way a particular mechanic works but they didn't change it and in fact made it slightly worse, you're obviously disappointed. It's neigh impossible not to have expectations in certain areas that will inevitably cause disappointment. Sometimes the expectation is just for something to not change and you'll be disappointed to find out otherwise. I'm not as down on the game as others, but there are definitely some disappointing changes I've seen as well, but all in all for me the positive is still outweighing the negative.
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    Cards on table ubisoft

    You see Ubisoft, think of yourself as a car dealer, far cry 5 is your car. I come to you with cash money wanting that car, you say "wait let me tell you about the paint and body." I gander, now that the body and paint are looked at I want to see what's under the hood, you stand there with the keys and continue telling me about the body and paint,I want to see what's under the hood.
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    What I really don't get is this: We've been pretty consistent about what we want in the editor and MP since FC2. Of course plenty of us have differing opinions but the general things we want remain about the same and have been all along. Far Cry's MP offering has never gotten rave reviews. There have been substantial issues with each release. You would figure after a game or two of trying it their way rather than giving us what we want they'd realize "Hey! This clearly isn't working, our MP numbers and ratings are only getting worse. We better listen to the MP community this time". But they don't. They continue plugging on with their own "vi$ion" and lose huge amounts of potential sales. Sure the SP aspect of the game has gotten way better and is bringing in tons of fans... but the MP side could too!! Far Cry could be CoD big as far as sales go! But they don't seem to actually want that. They want to completely ignore the ME/MP community simply because they think it's fun. I'm certainly out of any other explanations. Logic certainly doesn't play a part in anything they do with the community or MP.
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    I'll agree on most points movers (don't think FC would ever do CoD numbers though). I was saying they need to make the MP element better to retain more players so that the map editors have more opportunity to really showcase their creations. If the MP just played better in general, it'd really be beneficial for all the content creators as well. The FC MP communities seem to die of pretty quickly because the actual MP gameplay has never really been that enjoyable. If the MP was fun, people'd stick around long enough for the ME community to have a bit more reach. Fix the MP and the editors benefit as well...
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    I really don't care much about the MP but for sure if the series is going to strengthen on that aspect it may very well be also beneficial for SPs because there would be a higher probability for one of those skilled artists to drop a SP map too.
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