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  1. #1

    Can For Honor be saved?

    Let's be honest. The concept of For Honor was amazing. Since launch, it's gone down hill. I'd love to hear people's opinions on if the game can be fixed or if it's simply broken beyond the ability of fixing.

    First: P2P. I'm not sure who thought that P2P was the appropriate type of connection to have in this game but that person was nuts. Dedicated servers are supposed to be coming; over a year since release. The game has been plagued with disconnect and connectivity issues since day 1.

    Second: DLC characters have come into the game overpowered and ridiculous. This has occurred EVERY time. The most noticeable were Centurion, Shinobi, Aramusha and Shaman. There really isn't any excuse. After Centurion, I would have thought that debacle would have made people change their opinions on characters and introducing them to the games populations, but, if you look at Shaman; that clearly is wrong.

    Third: A very large portion of the game population has left. On Steam, you have a average of 1500-2500 players on at once. It would be safe to assume that on PC, you may have 5,000 people on at once. I doubt it though since I've played days when I literally fought the same guys 3-4 times in a row despite leaving and starting new games.

    At this point, I see pretty much the same people on each week. I call them the Diehards. I just do not see Ubisoft putting significant effort into making this game better. Will For Honor begin to change enough to draw in new life or is it just a pipe dream?

    I look forward to people's input.
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    Um... You do know that S5 goes live in about two weeks? With reworked characters, a focus on balancing and dedicated servers to fix the p2p-problems?
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    To your first point; As I've understood it, it's not that P2P couldn't have worked, it just that it didn't, and for many still doesn't. They started work on the dedicated servers a bit too long after launch for my taste, but I've heard that close to 80 or even 100 developers were assigned just this one, herculean task. That's commitment. I'm sort of hoping that once the servers are live, we might feel the impact of some of these programmers being freed up extend to the rest of the game.

    Second point; Whether or not some of the heroes were OP still is, and will continue to be, discussions that will haunt the entire community until the sun burns out.
    The chief issue for me, is just that these heroes, Centurion chief among them, just aren't as fun to fight as the OG heroes. Too many disabling moves and attacks with special properties. As I noted in my OG Vs. DLC hero comparison thread, the 6 DLC heroes alone possess the majority of unblockable, bleed and stun moves in the game. I want desperately to see this trend stop, and the new heroes seriously rebalanced.
    I'm hoping the upcoming reworks will help, but I'm still quite skeptical.

    Third point; The PC population may have died out, but the consoles remain quite popular, all things considered. If Ubisoft gets the marketing right, February 15th could be a big jump for the whole game, population wise, across all 3 platforms.

    Season 5 will probably be the make-it or break-it point of the whole game, and I try my hardest to stay positive and open minded about all the upcoming changes, and giving the game the chance it needs to stay alive.
    The developers have worked very hard, across a lot of different parts of the game over the past year, and if we've stuck around this long, we should give Season 5 a chance to show us the game has a bright future.
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    In my opinion it doesn't need saving. Like all PvP games, there will always be balancing to be done, literally every single PvP game.

    The connection issues are far along the way to being fixed and will be fixed soon, PC is the only player base with issues in population, and that's just the nature of PC gaming, with so many options for games people don't stick around for games that don't run perfectly on startup.

    The devs give weekly 1 hour updates on live streams to tell us what they're doing and Ubi mods are always reading posts and forwarding info. I used to play a ton of EA NHL games and used to go on their forums just as much as I come on here, they never reply to anything, never update the game issues and the game actually gets worse every year.

    I'm not sure what more people expect from a game company than how the For Honor team is handling the games issues.
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    lets hope so

    well, i love the changes and the dedicated servers. i was super exited about the parry changes as well. I'm just super put off by how it directly nerfs my class. basically they are good changes but i think they are pissing off too many players such as myself when they get the short end of the stick. for this I'm not sure ill continue to play.
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    Thats Ubisoft way ,release half done broken game and fix and make up as they go for better or worse ,division springs to mind too, most would be LOT better off NOT buying a Ubisoft game until least year after launch by that time a lot of the bugs,flaws etc MAY have been ironed out. I know most reputable software companies wont release a game till its ready but Ubisoft dont use this philosophy and promise allsorts expecting players to play broken game till they FINALLY fix it. They DELIBERATELY made the dlc characters WAY more powerful and better than the existing to sell the season pass thats pretty obviious. They seem to put pure profit before quality/performance thats for sure .Its definitely gonna be make or break at season 5 assuming theres any players left by then apart from the diehards as you say. I been playing since launch and like the rest of the games sufferes am STILL waiting for the VAST amount improvement s needed to this broken game,im amazed at times they had nerve to release at its state at beginning although minor improvements have been made theres still lot to do.
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    Originally Posted by M4RKSG4MES Go to original post
    Thats Ubisoft way ,release half done broken game and fix and make up as they go for better or worse ,division springs to mind too, most would be LOT better off NOT buying a Ubisoft game until least year after launch by that time a lot of the bugs,flaws etc MAY have been ironed out. I know most reputable software companies wont release a game till its ready but Ubisoft dont use this philosophy and promise allsorts expecting players to play broken game till they FINALLY fix it. They DELIBERATELY made the dlc characters WAY more powerful and better than the existing to sell the season pass thats pretty obviious. They seem to put pure profit before quality/performance thats for sure .Its definitely gonna be make or break at season 5 assuming theres any players left by then apart from the diehards as you say. I been playing since launch and like the rest of the games sufferes am STILL waiting for the VAST amount improvement s needed to this broken game,im amazed at times they had nerve to release at its state at beginning although minor improvements have been made theres still lot to do.
    What game isn't profit first... and COD ww2 was a mess on release, destiny 1 and 2 were, GTA V is still a mess after nearly 10 years, basically every EA game is a mess on release, it's the norm for every new release now. All major gaming companies push out games to meet deadlines before they are ready, not saying it's right, but it's hardly something only Ubisoft does.
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    Yeah, this game is going to die even with dedicated servers. i'm sorry its just all a bunch of crap at the moment. have fun and remember to buy more steel!! because that's all they want!
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    Originally Posted by Sarrion970 Go to original post
    Yeah, this game is going to die even with dedicated servers. i'm sorry its just all a bunch of crap at the moment. have fun and remember to buy more steel!! because that's all they want!
    Such truth. Much wow.

    Also guys, remember to log in 'cause there's an Execution Community Order going. Just go execute an AI in a Duel and you get 2000 free Steel.
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    Lol I've been playing since launch, bought steel once to get HL, didn't even spend 10 dollars either. You only need to buy steel if you don't have the patience to earn it, you don't need to unlock everything all at once you know.
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