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[PDXGorechild]

I always had you pegged as a Warden main. This has kinda shattered my mental image of you a bit.

Anyway

Actually one of the most sensible ideas I've heard around balancing Orochi. Agree that the top light needs toning down, especially if parry changes still allow for light attacks. Otherwise he'd still get roughly the same damage as most classes do with a parry > heavy.

Storm rush changes sound great. Always thought it was unnecessarily slow and highly situational.

The light > light > side unblockable idea. The shaman already has something like this. It looks as though Berserker might get it as well. I agree Orochi needs an unblockable to force a reaction but fear it may make the Assassins a bit monotone if they all have it. No suggestion to put in it's place really, just a thought.

Orochi's deflect needs looking at. I pity him. It seems very underwhelming compared to my Berserker's, which stops the enemy dead in their tracks and allows for a free heavy. Even when I deflect by accident (50% of the time) I still usually manage to take advantage of it. Can't say the same when i've played Orochi though. A lot of the time it's a trade at best. Not very high reward for such a high risk move.

[Knight_Raime]

I always had you pegged as a Warden main. This has kinda shattered my mental image of you a bit.

Anyway

Actually one of the most sensible ideas I've heard around balancing Orochi. Agree that the top light needs toning down, especially if parry changes still allow for light attacks. Otherwise he'd still get roughly the same damage as most classes do with a parry > heavy.

Storm rush changes sound great. Always thought it was unnecessarily slow and highly situational.

The light > light > side unblockable idea. The shaman already has something like this. It looks as though Berserker might get it as well. I agree Orochi needs an unblockable to force a reaction but fear it may make the Assassins a bit monotone if they all have it. No suggestion to put in it's place really, just a thought.

Orochi's deflect needs looking at. I pity him. It seems very underwhelming compared to my Berserker's, which stops the enemy dead in their tracks and allows for a free heavy. Even when I deflect by accident (50% of the time) I still usually manage to take advantage of it. Can't say the same when i've played Orochi though. A lot of the time it's a trade at best. Not very high reward for such a high risk move.

nah only got 1 and a half rep with warden about. Most of the heros that i've played I only have about one rep in them. I bounce around a lot and really only duel which means I only do orders I can do in duel. not to mention the huge amounts of private matches I did with friends..anyway orochi has 2 reps for me. my centurion has 5 or 6? I forget. Shinobi almost has 2. and so on.

Yeah she does. But it's only to her left. his would be left or right. and he could feint the unblockable in either to go for a cheeky zone. So a bit different mix ups there.

I think his windgust does 25? damage so it's as good as a parry. and hurricane blast does a good amount. and has mix up potential.
If the enemy is dodging, soft feint to GB. If they're going to attempt to hit you with an attack you can trade due to the armor. but if it's a meaty hit you can soft cancel to wind gust. and if they have the forsight to roll away you can cancel back dash into storm rush for a catch.

[Knight_Raime]

@Barbe

Pk is sort of a special case though. Her lights are very poorly telegraphed in combination with having a 400ms second light if the first lands. (if I remember right) She also has bleed which is very accessible to her. and again another basically unreadable zone. I don't think every assassin should get an unblockable. Orochi technically doesn't need one since he's a counter attacker. But I feel like both of the unblockables I suggest fit his theme rather well.

(for whatever reason it didn't quote you)