WHEN WHEN WHEN are your supposedly servers coming ffs | Forums

[Knight_Raime]

I think you are missing my point, I'm not saying to move people from one area to another. Say there are 4 people working on faction war updates and 4 on servers, there are way more but for simple math. Which is more important to the game? Faction war will not bring people to play the game, sure some may like it but no one bought this game for a top down side game. People want the Knight vs Viking vs Samurai fighting so making it the best it can be is what is needed. Servers has the potential to bring people to the game and bring in more money for the company. If you need more people to a certain task and it is behind like say servers add more people who do that. Hire more people, move people from a different game. In my example above let 2 faction war people go or move them and bring in more to work on the servers. For Honor is not the first multi player game made there are other models out there, we are not paving the way. There are plenty of people who know what they are doing, sure maybe there are good ones on it already but it doesn't mean there isn't anyone else out there. If the servers are going to be the savior everyone is hoping for they should be screaming from the rafters about when its coming, not we are working on it just keep playing the problematic game until they arrive.

If they desperately needed help with the servers i'm sure they would have tried hiring people. Firing people from the faction war group (pretend there is one for the sake of argument) wouldn't make the stuff go faster. There is no reason they can't work on both at the same time. And there is no proof that them working on the faction war has any effect on when the dedi servers will be done. Not just from like discussions with the team on the den but purely from a logical stand point. seperate teams. neither impact eachother.

And you're right. it is a fantasy game. the war is apart of that fantasy. I very much care about it. And I barely contribute due to how busy I am. Doesn't mean I don't lose my mind when my knight bois pull a W. Or get upset when the dirty vikings win AGAIN -cough- -cough-

I think it's clear they are prioritizing servers. one of the mods here stated they were. they've been working on it nonstop in season 4 and are putting it above everything (barring the reworks and new content) coming in season 5 by the sounds of it.

[Okita_Soji..]

Maybe it is because you only duel you don't see the other bigger issues that plague the 4's. I have played over 900 dominion pvp games and over 300 of the other 4v4 modes so I have seen a lot of things that frustrate me. I want the game to get better as I do like it a lot. Lately I've only been playing dominion vs AI and the game is much smother with just the 4 playing instead of 8 there are less disconnects and recalibrating. Lag seems less too. The lvl 3 bots could be better, would like lvl 4 as the games are not even close. They are easy wins but is a good way to practice.

With regards to the faction war, besides retooling it so the Vikings are not so dominant maybe the additions season 5 will bring will make it something. It is clear I don't care for it as Factions don't matter. I added to the post in suggestions long ago that it is meaningless and if factions were to matter why am I fight along side Knights and Vikings and helping their cause. More has to be done with it than adding castles and windmills. It needs to mean more than just an xp boost to get people like me to care. It doesn't matter currently as the Vikings will just keep winning anyway.

[Knight_Raime]

Maybe it is because you only duel you don't see the other bigger issues that plague the 4's. I have played over 900 dominion pvp games and over 300 of the other 4v4 modes so I have seen a lot of things that frustrate me. I want the game to get better as I do like it a lot. Lately I've only been playing dominion vs AI and the game is much smother with just the 4 playing instead of 8 there are less disconnects and recalibrating. Lag seems less too. The lvl 3 bots could be better, would like lvl 4 as the games are not even close. They are easy wins but is a good way to practice.

With regards to the faction war, besides retooling it so the Vikings are not so dominant maybe the additions season 5 will bring will make it something. It is clear I don't care for it as Factions don't matter. I added to the post in suggestions long ago that it is meaningless and if factions were to matter why am I fight along side Knights and Vikings and helping their cause. More has to be done with it than adding castles and windmills. It needs to mean more than just an xp boost to get people like me to care. It doesn't matter currently as the Vikings will just keep winning anyway.

I do want to back peddle a little and apologize for my aggressive behavior. You for the most part do post reasonably fine. I've had some caffeine today and when I get hyper I can be aggressive. So apologies.

Anyway. I agree we could deff use bigger changes to the faction war to make it far more interesting. I can understand why you don't care and that in the end you're really only trying to offer a solution. I just don't agree with it.

I want to like 4's. I really do. But what I want out of 4's to make it something enjoyable for me is something I don't see happening. but if you're curious to what that is....
~no duplicate heros. ex only one shaman a team.
~stats by default do not come into play and gear is cosmetic. stat based 4v4's would be a seperate que.
~dynamic maps with dominion. we capture a point. we move onto another point. think battlefield 1's operations.
~bigger teams. like 6 people per team.
~retooling of scoring in dominion so it's more about holding points and kills mean far less.
~Revenge being more of a proactive use instead of a reactive baindaid to address ganks.
~all feats are unlocked in the match by default. No scoring points to have to unlock their use. it encourages snowballing currently. feats could be far more powerful and dynamic if this was a thing.

[CandleInTheDark]

Maybe it is because you only duel you don't see the other bigger issues that plague the 4's. I have played over 900 dominion pvp games and over 300 of the other 4v4 modes so I have seen a lot of things that frustrate me. I want the game to get better as I do like it a lot. Lately I've only been playing dominion vs AI and the game is much smother with just the 4 playing instead of 8 there are less disconnects and recalibrating. Lag seems less too. The lvl 3 bots could be better, would like lvl 4 as the games are not even close. They are easy wins but is a good way to practice.

With regards to the faction war, besides retooling it so the Vikings are not so dominant maybe the additions season 5 will bring will make it something. It is clear I don't care for it as Factions don't matter. I added to the post in suggestions long ago that it is meaningless and if factions were to matter why am I fight along side Knights and Vikings and helping their cause. More has to be done with it than adding castles and windmills. It needs to mean more than just an xp boost to get people like me to care. It doesn't matter currently as the Vikings will just keep winning anyway.

I certainly think in xvx modes, it would make sense to group faction players where possible if that is something they can work on once servers are in, so long as they don't push to artificially restrict choice by penalising people who chose a character outside of their faction for that match as some are pushing for. The choice of those who don't play to such restrictions should not be limited by the self imposed restrictions of others.

I honestly don't like arguments that go with hey just fire some people, move them to another game that could use them, sure, if it is necessary, enough people like it I don't think it is, but some people talk far too casually about people's work life for my liking. I get servers is a thing that needs prioritising and it sounds like outside reworks they have done just that, we know there is a definite sixteen week period (season and offseason) and I would hope that if they are in the final development phase it won't be in the later part of that.I get 4v4 is a problem right now, what they did helped some (anecdotal evidence), didn't help many, it was why they started the migration in the first place.

[Okita_Soji..]

My comments about moving people is about money and budget. What ever they do to faction war whether I or anyone like it or not will do nothing to bring people to the game. To keep this game going it needs players. They are slowly letting everyone slip away by delaying things and pushing everything back. Just telling people to wait it will come is bad business. We need servers and a great many things that effect game play not this. Sure some make like the mini side game it is but it will not keep players or bring in new ones. The fighting game play is why we are all still here and if that just continues to the way it is that won't be enough.