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    AlphaBridge Overhaul Idea

    So with the signature skills, this got me thinking...

    What if we change the 6P so that it chooses your highest investment of the 3 tiers:

    • FA higher than STAM & ELEC = Tact Link Effect
    • STAM higher than FA & ELEC = Survivor Link Effect
    • ELEC higher than FA & STAM = Revival / Heal Link effect


    Then, the more you invest in it, the stronger the effect becomes. How much it works for is up for debate and needs to be balanced. Also, to have some team based effect (as otherwise investing in Electronics isn't that great), I would let the Heal Link heal teammates when they stand withing X meters of their teammate.

    NOTE: It's always active, hence why the values might need tweaking.
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    I'm open to new ideas like this, even though I'm only 5/6 to completion on AB.
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    Originally Posted by Corrupt_be Go to original post
    So with the signature skills, this got me thinking...

    What if we change the 6P so that it chooses your highest investment of the 3 tiers:

    • FA higher than STAM & ELEC = Tact Link Effect
    • STAM higher than FA & ELEC = Survivor Link Effect
    • ELEC higher than FA & STAM = Revival / Heal Link effect


    Then, the more you invest in it, the stronger the effect becomes. How much it works for is up for debate and needs to be balanced. Also, to have some team based effect (as otherwise investing in Electronics isn't that great), I would let the Heal Link heal teammates when they stand withing X meters of their teammate.

    NOTE: It's always active, hence why the values might need tweaking.
    Interesting idea.
    I don't know. I wouldn't mind testing it out.
    Although I would like it better if 6th piece bonus lets us use 6 weapon talents. No exotics can be used.
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    Originally Posted by Corrupt_be Go to original post
    So with the signature skills, this got me thinking...

    What if we change the 6P so that it chooses your highest investment of the 3 tiers:

    • FA higher than STAM & ELEC = Tact Link Effect
    • STAM higher than FA & ELEC = Survivor Link Effect
    • ELEC higher than FA & STAM = Revival / Heal Link effect


    This is Massive we're talking about. ELEC would probably trigger Tact, STAM would trigger Revival, FA would trigger Survivor.

    Also, realistically, the 6P of almost every Classified Gear Set needs tweaking/reworking.

    The 6P tweak list (for me):

    Hunter's Faith
    Tactician's
    Predator's Mark
    Nomad
    Lone Star

    The 6P rework list (again, for me)

    Alphabridge
    Sentry's Call (give it a PVP option)
    Deadeye
    Strikers
    Banshee
    Firecrest

    To be honest, it's ridiculous that we're even discussing changing Classified Gear Sets. We've all given plenty of feedback during the various PTS stages and it was roundly ignored by the developers.

    If they were unwilling/unable to change a gear set during a PTS, they are hardly likely to bother now that it's in the live game.

    What did Yannick say? It takes a few months for a meta to establish itself (or something like that)? And yet the meta is exactly what everyone expected after even a short time on the PTS.

    They had almost an entire year to get these Classified Gear Sets absolutely right. The 5P just extends the 3P. That means they only had to get the final 6P right and we could have had an interesting and truly varied game.
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    Originally Posted by Pig_Bodine Go to original post
    To be honest, it's ridiculous that we're even discussing changing Classified Gear Sets. We've all given plenty of feedback during the various PTS stages and it was roundly ignored by the developers.

    If they were unwilling/unable to change a gear set during a PTS, they are hardly likely to bother now that it's in the live game.

    What did Yannick say? It takes a few months for a meta to establish itself (or something like that)? And yet the meta is exactly what everyone expected after even a short time on the PTS.

    They had almost an entire year to get these Classified Gear Sets absolutely right. The 5P just extends the 3P. That means they only had to get the final 6P right and we could have had an interesting and truly varied game.
    NAIL ... MEET HEAD! I don't disagree with your tweak and rework list either but the above is the truth. And it isn't the first time either. Remember SEEKr? Everyone told them that set was broken but they said that we couldn't be sure and that the set needed testing. What do you know, it broke the game and didn't make it into the live game BUT the developers couldn't see it without testing.

    Everyone said Predator and Striker were broken. Everyone said the Nomad multiple revives were asinine, but the developers need to watch the game spiral into a boring three set meta over the coming months before reluctantly they will admit that they were wrong ... AGAIN. Eventually everything will get an 'adjustment' (read catastrophic nerf) that will ensure that EVERY Classified becomes vendor trash, not to mention the huge loss of more players that we will have endured by that point.

    They just will not learn!
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    Originally Posted by Pig_Bodine Go to original post
    This is Massive we're talking about. ELEC would probably trigger Tact, STAM would trigger Revival, FA would trigger Survivor.
    Or worse, a new stacking glitch triggers all 3

    Nomad / Predator are also on the rework list for me. Striker needs to be tweaked heavily to keep headshots a thing, but also toned down in max potential.

    Nomad ... idk I think the set should make a player tougher but the extra lives thing is really annoying in PvP.

    Predator fun as hell in PvE but really annoying in PvP. It's not as OP as people say but it's still a really annoying mechanic to deal with.

    Not to mention the current TTK in PvP is BS, I literally feel forced to run Striker if I want any half decent DPS throughput.
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    Originally Posted by Corrupt_be Go to original post
    Or worse, a new stacking glitch triggers all 3
    How is it a glitch to stack Sig skills? If you are getting a kill chain you deserved to be rewarded.

    If tec support and commanding talents worked you could earn all 3.

    Alpha 6 piece could be a more powerful but less predictable talent than striker stacks.
    I think op skills are essential at this point in the game, we just need to earn them not be gifted the bonus like pred and nomad.

    Imagine if nomads had to stack to guarantee a proc, or bleed was proportional to the number of bullets hit. Would be much more balanced with more room for individual skill to show.
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    Originally Posted by AirsickWord1108 Go to original post
    How is it a glitch to stack Sig skills? If you are getting a kill chain you deserved to be rewarded.
    We were talking about the suggestion above, not the current design or the Super Saiyan build (which revolves around getting signatures back quickly and have a high uptime).
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    Originally Posted by Corrupt_be Go to original post
    We were talking about the suggestion above, not the current design or the Super Saiyan build (which revolves around getting signatures back quickly and have a high uptime).
    Oh right, didn't realise everyone had to support your vision.

    Realistically they won't remove the skill rotation, so stacking into one would just mean you'd spend 2/3 of your time waiting for the only useful bonus. Also the idea that you'd get a 30 second Sig skill for a kill is ridiculous, if you can't get a kill in 10 seconds with an insane boost your doing something wrong.

    They should support us to stack the skills if we are able.

    Team mates signatures should overwrite the 6 piece talent for the duration of the skill.

    I do like your proximity idea as it's hard to directly support your team with revives but even with the skill rotation it might be over powered.
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    Alphabridge overhaul idea ?

    6 pieces : If your Primary and Secondary Weapon is of the same category, they share their talents. :3

    Jokes appart, nowadays the old AB wouldn't even be OP compared to striker
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