Season 5 and Apollyon, your guess? | Forums

[HazelrahFirefly]

Mine? Two words:

New Hero.

We get to play Apollyon in the start of a new faction (too much?). She'll be a nerfed version compared to the campaign of course, but a surprise new hero such as she would sell the season to even those who doubt its relevancy.

[Dekkeer14]

How about a Tribesman faction? Maybe Zulu, Hun, Apache (or Comanche?), Aztec, Maui and Dacians.
Maybe the smaller factions banded together after the disaster that occurs in for honor to form their own faction in order to compete with the much stronger main three.

Somehow Apollyon (or a new version) could lead them in order to make a new faction of 'wolves'. Maybe even a new story campaign?

[Armosias]

Apollyon as a boss in the upcoming arena training.

[ChampionRuby50g]

Technically when we are fighting in PVP/PvAi we are fighting in the war that ensues after Apollyons death and the events in the campaign. When we see the 3 leaders at the end discussing peace, that’s 7 Years after her death I believe. Apollyon won’t make it into the PVP aspect of the game as she’s dead, and there are issues with her Armor clipping or something of the sort.

[HazelrahFirefly]

Technically when we are fighting in PVP/PvAi we are fighting in the war that ensues after Apollyons death and the events in the campaign. When we see the 3 leaders at the end discussing peace, that’s 7 Years after her death I believe. Apollyon won’t make it into the PVP aspect of the game as she’s dead, and there are issues with her Armor clipping or something of the sort.

That's no reason at all. Its a fighting game, with a shoddy story at best, not some narrative masterpiece. You kill the boss in every fighting game, can usually still play them.

[PDXGorechild]

Why is everyone obsessed with the idea of Apollyon being playable? Will literally never happen. She's basically a really overpowered warden.

Something else that will never happen is the introduction of a new faction. This would spoil the fairly effective 3 way battle that goes on and likely result in 2 factions against the other 2. It would also require the team to make 6 new classes for said faction presumably.

[ChampionRuby50g]

That's no reason at all. Its a fighting game, with a shoddy story at best, not some narrative masterpiece. You kill the boss in every fighting game, can usually still play them.

Yes, but usually the bosses in the games story are never in the multiplayer aspect. It doesn’t matter how good or bad the story is, the point is still the same.

[bob333e]

I'm personally against having Apollyon as a playable character in PvP. It would lessen her overall image and impact. People will meme the crap out of her. And moveset-wise, she will be a literally overpowered hero in PvP. She has insane recovery times and an insane stamina pool. Also her armor isn't PvP-friendly because it has a static, fixed look and detail. It cannot be swapped/modified/customized. On top of confirmed to cause clipping issues if they make this armor available for multiplayer, it's been mentioned before.

A new fourth Faction is nice, but until they properly address the lore side of things, re-push the narrative into a much deeper hole, and hire a writer to take Ari's seat, I'd rather they don't introduce any new Factions now.

[HazelrahFirefly]

You guys are weirdly obsessed with story in a video game, especially one where it doesn't matter lol.

As stated, Apollyon's would be toned down if playable.

But all right, lets hear some guesses instead of negativity. What is the connection between age of wolves and Apollyon?

[bob333e]

Upon Apollyon's death, from all the chaos she's been spreading until her death, three Factions remain at eternal war for 7 years straight. This 7-year war is the age of wolves; post-Apollyon era, but all of it driven from Apollyon's actions. So yeah lore-wise it wouldn't make sense at all if Apollyon makes a reappearance anywhere.

The lore may seem insignificant but only because no proper effort has been put into it. Ari said so herself. She had so many ideas but much of her thinking has never been codified. But don't worry, the potential is there.

And there hasn't been any negativity from me. If you perceived my message as negative, I apologise, wasn't intended.

The 'wolves' are the people Apollyon spared in her invasion and recruitment campaigns, effectively butchering 'sheep' and recruiting 'wolves', a.k.a the worst criminal filth who'd never take a second thought at plunging a dagger in your back the moment you divert your attention. So according to how Apollyon acted all this time, all three Factions are now mostly occupied by 'wolves', constantly killing each other.

These wolves, are us, the playerbase. The Great Cataclysm happened 1000 years ago in an alternate dimension, and ever since, there has been the Millenial War for survival and resources, up until Apollyon surfaced, a thousand years after the cataclysm. There could have been peace but then Apollyon happened and she re-erupted everything into total war. Figuratively speaking, For Honor represents the present day, and we all are Apollyon's wolves who surfaced after her campaign. Upon her death, all chaos erupted, starting at Blackstone Keep, where all three Factions met hap-hazardly. And are now fighting each other without really knowing why.

I know, food for thought.