Why do rubbish people moan about shaman so much | Forums

[Alustar.exe]

Just fyi, I've got peacekeeper to rep 17 and shaman at 10, and Raime is correct, it is infinitely easier to land bleeds with PK than shaman. In fact, getting an opponent bleeding can be difficult enough that I will usually tag in with either a PK, Nobushi, or shinobi, so that I can focus other areas of the kit and take advantage of the bleed when my allies get them in.

Also on the topic of her effectiveness in 4s she is only strong when paired with another player. I'm still not confident with her against more than two opponents. While some have issues with her throw distance cause of ledging, that ability to maneuver opponents is really one of the only things keeping her viable without getting trounced like shinobi.

All of her distance closers and CC require am boot up animation before the ability executes, is easy for groups of players to pin her down and keep her from don't anything. So, honestly I think shaman is fine. Maybe reduce the throw distance by a bit, but that's really all the tweaking I would do now till we see where the rest of the roster land. Her confirmed damage is only really an issue for new players on 1v1 since in 4s it locks you into animation against a single opponent, leaving you wide open to external attacks. If I'm getting ganked, I can tell you from experience, if I try and throw or use WCR or any of the predators moves I'm going to get hit from the side or back and killed.

[HazelrahFirefly]

I agree with you about the Shaman, Alustar. She was initially OP, but her first nerf and thr tracking fixes made her normal. The latest nerfs are too much if you ask me. She's barely a threat now.

[brashtralas]

bye felicia, talking to you is like beating a dead horse anyway. (It does nothing)

Wow. Hahaha

Why is mute even a thing? This guys is basically in an echo chamber, at this point.

Ahhhh, why do I still come here?

[bob333e]

Also, does our kleek have a name yet?

Kleekbringers, Inc.

[ArchDukeInstinct]

So many people complain about shaman and she isn’t even over powered.. look at orochi no one cares about him now but people used to cry themselves to sleep at night at the start. He doesn’t have much to brag about.

Shaman does have a lot to brag about though. What a completely counterproductive "argument" for your conclusion. Orochi who has nowhere the amount of viable moves as Shaman was considered OP so that must mean Shaman is not OP. Like what the heck dude.

Every player is over powered in there own way.

No, they have strengths that are counteracted by weaknesses whereas Shaman gets a combination of superior versions of other people's moves with none of their weaknesses or weaknesses unique to her. Which is exactly why Shaman is considered OP. It's essentially the definition of imbalanced, there's nothing but strengths for this character.

Look at the centurion has so many stun moves and knock backs ow and a stab once your down once your pinned it’s game over due to stun stamina reductions.

Yet he's tied for lowest health, lowest heavy damage, and lowest light damage in the game. It's almost like Centurion has... weaknesses to make up for his strengths like his stamina damage and overall stamina pool and strong light parry and wall splat punishes? Wow what an odd thing. And Shaman has a far superior version of his legion kick that is feignable, faster, and can wall splat.

Look at the Berserker can hit a 55 with a heavy no complaints?

It's not his standard heavy, that's within a combo where he already threw one heavy out. Maybe you should learn how to parry or even just block? The only reason you should be getting hit by that is that you traded in damage while he had hyper armor on that or you fell while in OOS. Thanks to that second heavy doing 55 damage, Berseker has a superb OOS punish that Shaman steals because she can do a heavy, a heavy combo finisher and then a bleed attack on opponents that fell in OOS.

Or a highlander in the wrong hands gives me nightmares!

You're terrible. If your idea of strong characters in this game are Berserker and Highlander then you are truly clueless.

Or even a parry happy warden Or even a raider cheesing you grab run knee stun hit and repeat. Revenge in brawls? or revenge in general that’s even more op than any play will ever be.

LOL So now it's just mechanics that everyone including Shaman has? (ignoring raider knee stun part)

People need to stop crying about stuff and just have fun it’s a game after all! If you think shaman is op use them and Ull soon go back to a different character once you get dodged and parried.

That's exactly it though, you can't have fun because the character diversity has been drastically reduced because you either have to play as Shaman or hope the opponent shamans are terrible at the game as you sound to be.