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[MAGNAROK-YT]

Please nerf the Wardens top lightspam

[Charmzzz]

Elaborate please. Orochi, Kensei, PK and Shinobi Top Light spam are far more effective than Warden's.

All these Top Lights are 500ms Attacks:

Warden: 15 Damage
Lawbringer: 15 Damage
PK: 17 Damage
Kensei: 20 Damage
Shinobi: 24 Damage (guaranteed 2. hit)
Orochi: 32 Damage (guaranteed 2. hit)

[PopnYoAss]

Elaborate please. Orochi, Kensei, PK and Shinobi Top Light spam are far more effective than Warden's.

All these Top Lights are 500ms Attacks:

Warden: 15 Damage
Lawbringer: 15 Damage
PK: 17 Damage
Kensei: 20 Damage
Shinobi: 24 Damage (guaranteed 2. hit)
Orochi: 32 Damage (guaranteed 2. hit)

This.

[MAGNAROK-YT]

I know that, but its intractable. And thats why i made this post. Cuz these lightspams is gamebreaking

[Charmzzz]

Guard Top vs Warden - problem solved. All he has now is an unsafe Zone, 600ms side light attacks or his shoulder bash which is pretty good counterable.

[MAGNAROK-YT]

For u that is

[We.the.North]

Guard Top vs Warden - problem solved. All he has now is an unsafe Zone, 600ms side light attacks or his shoulder bash which is pretty good counterable.

If you do that :

- Duel : Both of you will stare at the other waiting for the timer to run out.
- Dominion : Both of you will stare at the other waiting for a teamate to help you open up the other turtle.

This is a major problem with this game. A problem acknowledged by Ubisoft LOOOOOONG ago and still not fixed. Still no ETA on a fix. Still no description of how it's going to be fixed. All they said is :The defensive meta is a problem we're working on.

TLDR : The best way to defeat an opponent is still to play overly defensive. Defensive gameplay is way, way more rewarding than risking attacks.

[NHLGoldenKnight]

You must be kidding me, right? Nerf Warden?

As someone who likes good sword fight I can tell you that Warden is the worst swordsman in this game. Warden actually needs a buff or a rework with more moves. He needs a side step attack.

Kensei has one, Orrochi has one, PK has one....ok Higlander doesn't but it is unrealistic with Claymore, at least I think so.

I would like to play as aggressively as I can, but everyone can read my game when I am using Warden. Ok, I am in 5% of those who don't use shoulder bash spam but still...

As for "defensive meta" , it is a product of superior assasins class which Ubisoft developers like and nourish more and more. Assasins are in general too strong, almost OP compared to other classes. Take a look at Gladiator or Shaman. Hell, even Berserker can kill me with only 2 strikes on occasion.

So Warden, and any other limited hero, they don't have many options. If they open up, they will quickly get ripped apart by faster heroes, with more stamina and stronger attacks. Why assasins have such a high damage attacks in combination with their speed and stamina? I don't know, biased developers sure can tell you.

But don't blame the Warden. If we ever get the proper rework, I am sure Wardens will fight using different style. But for now, it seems that even Kensei has priority when it comes to rework, even though he has 2x longer moveset list when compared to Warden.

[brashtralas]

This may or may not be the issue you’re experiencing, and it’s likely not the answer you want, but the game is simply inconsistent due to lag.

Anyone with a yellow or red bar, or even sometimes a lower green, gets an advantage ranging from slight to downright obnoxious. It can shave 300+ ms off an attack.

It’s not the best advice, but holding out for dedicated servers might be the best option. Then they might turn out to suck. Who knows?

[BlackHorse58]

Those pesky Samurai light attacks are like fighting the guy in the clap on commercial...good lord.