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[YodaMan 3D]

15? Really. I doubt that, almost all players taunt at some point. Also most players on this game are much older.

I never have and don't intend too. Nothing more then showing just a little honor in the battle field and all.

[Sharpandpointy]

Agreed.

The most I've ever done was after killing a Rogue who came after me while I was farming, I danced a jig. Self-congratulatory, more than anything.

Otherwise, I don't see the point in trash-talking, using emotes that put the other player down, that kind of thing.

[rdunlap41]

While i agree that its a huge problem, lets put the original blame where it belongs. The Game Maker decided to put those acid taunts into their game. the Game Publisher decided to allow it to go to market. And finally US the players gave them our money proving they were right to put them there.

I raised 4 kids and worked hard to keep them out of activities that rewarded them for bad behavior. This game has so many funneling mechanisms in place to force PVP on us to greater and lesser degrees that its totally not possible to avoid at this point unless you simply uninstall the game. Look at the GE's Leaderboards (PVP). The new PVE area Leaderboards (PVP). the only way to completely avoid PVP in this game is to play out the story (all except the mission "Discover the DZ), and then hit the uninstall button and call it done forever.

My 2 cents worth.
Robert

[rdunlap41]

I suppose i should add one point. I am NOT against PVP. I (and my entire family) played a PVP based game for years, Unreal Tournament. It was true PVP though, all players had the same "Gear" and all players had access to the same IDENTICAL list of weapon drops so that the entire contest was player skill VS player skill. There wasn't a RNG factor other than whether i could beat you to that ammo drop. There was absolutely no taunting emotes and the like to teach people that bad is good.

Robert

[Sock_Monkey]

I've been playing games for so long now, I know the deal. You are always going to have gankers and certain games give them more ability to gank, hence the DZ. I just grin and bear it because is it part of the game. The part that gets me is how much they gloat about killing a solo low-level trying to just grind away (me). As soon as I die they are on the mic taunting and doing all sorts of emotes. Congrats, you accomplished a trivial task. If I was hard core, I'd link up with a group of like-minded gamers and hunt down these imbecile squads and grief them non-stop.

Rant over. Happy Holidays!

Don't know why "grinning" is even necessary. If they put all their ego into a video game they have bigger problems than you, and I use that to my advantage to respond when they gloat.

Example: recently some team in the DZ cornered me 4v1 and killed me, then started laughing with the "You got raped dude! I nailed you!"
My simple (and calm) response: "You didn't rape anyone. You're just a dork banging away on a keyboard in his mommy's basement."

Their reply: silence.


Another 4v1 one was in the street, so my character was face down in the "snow." So the kid is like "How about some snow in the face? You like snow in your face?"
Again, I calmly replied "What snow in my face? I am sitting in my warm office with a nice beer. No snow around here."

The point is that loser dorks hang so much of their self esteem on winning they forget it's not real life and is all a make believe game. Any time you yank them back to reality it usually shuts them up.

[nairda2k9]

Very true but what appals me most about this game is the fact that Massive condones this activity. They consider it a healthy and acceptable part of the monster that they created with the DZ. everyone likes to state that the DZ is a lawless place and this is exactly what things would be like in real life. This is nothing like real life. In real life, the supply drops would get stopped, food and water into the DZ would be cut off. Reinforcements would be amassed in the LZ whilst rogues in the DZ would be limited in number with no reinforcements. The area would be swept, superior firepower and numbers would prevail, the rogues would get their backsides kicked and be arrested or killed ... FACT.

The DZ is a make believe fairy land that the developers created to favour rogues where things like checkpoint camping, ganking, multi grouping and the use of game breaking exploits was never addressed. Broken mechanics like NPC range and accuracy, aggro rules, rope cutting were never addressed or deliberately introduced to give rogues an unfair advantage so that the social misfits who get enjoyment out of socially unacceptable behaviour would continue to populate an area of the game that would die without their presence. It is a pathetic attempt to try to keep the DZ alive when it is quite obvious the concept was a complete failure.

[gt2k]

This is an online problem that extends beyond video games for sure. I have never liked emotes in video games unless they are funny. You will always have people being rude, toxic, racist, and overall losers on the internet in just about everything.

Video games especially PVP games tend to have the worst kind especially COD from my experience. You have that bully personality that shows up when they go against less skilled players. When met with a superior player they whine and yell foul. These types are the ones who use cheats the most in any game.

[III_Hammer_III]

...and endzone celebrations are taunting.

Endzone celebrations are not taunting. They could be, but in on themselves they aren't (the difference between spiking the ball after a TD and spiking the ball at an opponent's feet).

[rdunlap41]

Endzone celebrations are not taunting. They could be, but in on themselves they aren't (the difference between spiking the ball after a TD and spiking the ball at an opponent's feet).

While this is true, the antisocial behavior is so pervasive that ANY celebration is now taken at its worst face value by almost everyone. If you go IRL into an area where everyone is unfriendly you rapidly become conditioned to assume that EVERYTHING that is done has an antisocial slant and react to it. I personally think it has gone far enough that there is not a way to fix it other than close the DZ for a year or so so that the Idjits get bored and leave and then set up properly and fairly with no antisocial goals and try again.

Robert

[Solidus...]

Otherwise, I don't see the point in trash-talking, using emotes that put the other player down, that kind of thing.

Point is reaction on them like this thread.