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    Division Tech Acquisition?

    With Division Tech being the new must have currency, and the limited amounts of places where it can be attained, is there any way that in the DZ we open up that pouch so that when I kill someone I can get at their DT? Most of the times I run around the DZ looking into all the crates and boxes only to find that they are already looted and I can't get DT easily or readily. The DZ is supposed to be high risk/ high reward and DT right now is the most rewarding aspect of it, lets face it the gear drop is mostly garbage. So why is the most desired item in the game (DT) locked away from me when I do the high risk/high reward option? I should be able to loot your division tech you have stored in your pouch.

    Or maybe make it like DZ funds where when I kill you it gives me money for it, but doesn't take it from you, although there should be some risk for anyone entering the DZ and your DT pouch might just be that risk. Same would apply for rogues too of course.

    I think this would be a great addition because it would slow the rate at which people would be able to optimize their gear, slower rate == more people grinding == more people playing == more people in the DZ == more PVP fun, I just can't see any downside to this at all. Right now the DZ is boring, you just run around and kill people who can't or don't fight back and you get virtually nothing for it. There is no "high reward" for killing guys who simply let you so they can respawn somewhere an continue stealing your DT, in fact most times you are probably doing them a favor by sending them to a check point where they just fast travel to some other portion of the map away from you. But they rarely come back for the gear they dropped and if you melt them fast enough then they never come back because they figure they can't beat you anyway.

    Please add the "high risk/high reward" back to the dark zone and let us loot each others DT pouch (and all pouches for that matter).
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    gt2k's Avatar Senior Member
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    That is a horrible idea.

    Everyone needs to stop with BS risk/reward crap. How about adding FUN into the game? You do that with the D tech everyone will do WSP and never set foot in the DZ. If they do it will be ganking crews camping every checkpoint.
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    I don't think it will be any different than it is now. The risk/reward will just go up a little. In the past you could lose lots of DZ Funds an DZ Exp but people still went in there because the reward off-set the risk or was at least as great as the risk. I would imagine with the advent of the optimization station that the DZ has seen an uptick in participation, but the supply of DT has largely remained the same, so we need someway to increase the supply. Thus making it so a killer can get at a killee's pouch would be a step in the right direction of increasing supply.

    I think it would add fun to the game since the items that most people want now that are in the DZ are DT then the risk gets added back in and the fun (i.e. the suspense of the DZ) is returned to the DZ. It would be sorta be like a DT piñata. You die your drop delicious DT, if you kill me then I drop DT its a win-win for all parties involved. Plus PVP in the DZ increases as it becomes more profitable to do so.
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    I find there's tons of D-tech available in the DZ.

    I run DZ 09. The place is full of D-tech containers - groups of three and singly. Yeah, sometimes those get stolen, and the place is a desert. But then the place has quite a few Gold Caches, not just in Contaminated zones (they're hidden around in different places). And maybe, sure, those are gone as well though it's pretty rare they're all gone.

    But after that, there are Purple Caches.

    Those things are EVERYWHERE in DZ 09. The place is lousy with them. And each one will cough up 1-3 DT when extracted. And people seem to just ignore them.

    Then there's the landmark clearing. Every NPC I kill has a chance to drop Dtech. Every landmark I clear gives me D-tech.

    And I'm careful with optimization - I only optimize stuff I know that I'm going to 100% keep, or stuff I use all of the time (Tactician's Set...it's going to be a while before Classy Tacticians comes out).

    And there's the risk-reward. You kill me? I lose some of my caches. You cut my line? I lose all of them.

    So, everyone is happy.
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    If they make it so when getting killed by a rogue some of your DivTech is lost no one will go in the DZ again.

    If you're having trouble finding unopened DivTech crates or DZ caches in the contaminated zone already looted log out, log back in, and hope you get better luck on the next DZ instance you join. Heck I sometimes run a quick DivTech run in the DZ and log out/log in and get another server where the run hasn't been touched.
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    Why does OP or anyone else limit their thinking in terms of acquisition? You have plenty of sources.

    Every single HE or Gearset item can be broken down for materials with a chance of Division Tech. Every single Exotic grants a DivTech upon breaking it down. There's DivTech in UG, Resistance, Field Proficiency Caches, and you can even craft gear ad nauseum with the thousands of Tools, Fabric, Electronics, Weapons Parts, etc.

    But no let's take from someone else's effort... as if respawning DivTech every 5-10m in the DZ isn't enough... it's astounding that people can be so selfish. Go farm some damn DivTech if you aren't fast enough to get it out of the most available source in the game. Pathetic.
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    Originally Posted by KhalVarys Go to original post
    Why does OP or anyone else limit their thinking in terms of acquisition? You have plenty of sources.

    Every single HE or Gearset item can be broken down for materials with a chance of Division Tech. Every single Exotic grants a DivTech upon breaking it down. There's DivTech in UG, Resistance, Field Proficiency Caches, and you can even craft gear ad nauseum with the thousands of Tools, Fabric, Electronics, Weapons Parts, etc.

    But no let's take from someone else's effort... as if respawning DivTech every 5-10m in the DZ isn't enough... it's astounding that people can be so selfish. Go farm some damn DivTech if you aren't fast enough to get it out of the most available source in the game. Pathetic.
    Granted I've been playing way too much Division during this GE but I've gotten almost 600 DivTech just from scrapping all the crap I've been getting grinding GE tokens, if I had taken the time I've put into grinding GE tokens and put it into specifically getting DivTech it would be a heck of a lot higher. It's not that hard.
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    I dont understand, I am not calling for the removal of the ways we currently get DT, I am simply stating that there needs to be another way to get it. If you run in the DZ and avoid contact with others then it wouldnt change your playstyle whatsoever. On the off chance that you do run into someone and they engage you in PVP, both parties now run the risk of losing something, thus increasing meaningful PVP instead of just one guy throwing up his hands and conceding defeat before the fight even starts.

    I get it, PVP is a dirty word to most here, but the DZ is also a PVP zone as well as a PVE zone. I dont see why PVPers should not be able to "trade" efficiently in all of the spoils of the DZ.
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    Originally Posted by InsidiousCarp Go to original post
    I dont understand, I am not calling for the removal of the ways we currently get DT, I am simply stating that there needs to be another way to get it. If you run in the DZ and avoid contact with others then it wouldnt change your playstyle whatsoever. On the off chance that you do run into someone and they engage you in PVP, both parties now run the risk of losing something, thus increasing meaningful PVP instead of just one guy throwing up his hands and conceding defeat before the fight even starts.

    I get it, PVP is a dirty word to most here, but the DZ is also a PVP zone as well as a PVE zone. I dont see why PVPers should not be able to "trade" efficiently in all of the spoils of the DZ.
    You don't get it because PVP players have the same options to get D tech as those PVE only players. By having players drop d tech whether from their inventory or not creates an extreme toxic zone. Instead of dealing with that players will not go to the DZ period especially if they lose it themselves no one wants to deal with that.
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    Originally Posted by InsidiousCarp Go to original post
    I get it, PVP is a dirty word to most here, but the DZ is also a PVP zone as well as a PVE zone. I dont see why PVPers should not be able to "trade" efficiently in all of the spoils of the DZ.
    They already do: they get to take the Caches I farm. And that's already with them forcing the PvP when I don't want to fight.

    The Developers have already rolled back on some of the DZ PvP stuff through many patches - they removed a lot of the penalties, the losses, etc. But they've kept the idea that any player in the DZ can lose a lot of good stuff to a rogue, or a rogue group.

    You say: "With Division Tech being the new must have currency, and the limited amounts of places where it can be attained,"

    Then you suggest that PvE people should now find their 'must have' currency stolen by PvP people.

    I mean...it's not like the PvP people don't already have all of the choices that the PvE people have to getting Division Tech, so the whole idea of PvP people not 'trading' efficiently in all of the spoils of the DZ is off to start with.
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