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    The house - the new M4

    Typical massive, all this weapon balancing and at the same time bring in a weapon that's better than all others. We FINALLY get % weapon damage on gloves that has been needed for a long time. M4, mp5 and mp7 got a nerf on top of that and for the first time lower fire rate weapons are competing with the higher fire rate...

    Then The House comes in. SMGs seem to be the most common weapon I'm seeing in PvP right now. Out of the AUG, Vector, MP5 and The House. Not only does the house have the highest fire rate and an exclusive talent that boosts base damage by 15% for half the magazine. It also has one of the highest base DMG in the class?

    Now I have been saying for quite a while. Exotics should be the best weapons in the game. I don't want to see the house get nerfed because farming exotics is actually worth it right now so can we finally get some serious buffs to the other exotics and some new ones that compete with The House? Otherwise, as soon as most players have found one, The House will be the only viable PvP gun like the M4 was for way too long.
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    Originally Posted by Stu519 Go to original post
    Typical massive, all this weapon balancing and at the same time bring in a weapon that's better than all others. We FINALLY get % weapon damage on gloves that has been needed for a long time. M4, mp5 and mp7 got a nerf on top of that and for the first time lower fire rate weapons are competing with the higher fire rate...

    Then The House comes in. SMGs seem to be the most common weapon I'm seeing in PvP right now. Out of the AUG, Vector, MP5 and The House. Not only does the house have the highest fire rate and an exclusive talent that boosts base damage by 15% for half the magazine. It also has one of the highest base DMG in the class?

    Now I have been saying for quite a while. Exotics should be the best weapons in the game. I don't want to see the house get nerfed because farming exotics is actually worth it right now so can we finally get some serious buffs to the other exotics and some new ones that compete with The House? Otherwise, as soon as most players have found one, The House will be the only viable PvP gun like the M4 was for way too long.
    Still didn't get The House yet?

    To be official, I did get mine and expect a nerf at anytime.

    To be honest like we discussed. With the right rolls it can be absolutely amazing weapon and on the verge of being the next meta. Like I said I expect you will have about a 3rd who gets it before the end of the GE, a 3rd who will eventually get it, and a 3rd who will never see it and be at a big disadvantage without it.
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    Nah, I still see and hear M4s around. Same with BUllfrogs. I've won and lost to both, using The House.

    Only difference between The House and M4 is that The House isn't craftable, so it's backed behind a ton of RNG, from the rolls, to the drop rate of exotics. And, as more exotics are added to the game, the chances of getting one shrinks. Unlike the M4 where a vendor is selling the blueprint at this very moment lol.
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    Players who have the house will use it over any other automatic weapon. They have replaced the m4 meta with the house meta. Nothing changes with this game and never will because they dont listen, when they do listen it takes 3 months of investigating.
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    Originally Posted by Stu519 Go to original post
    an exclusive talent that boosts base damage by 15% for half the magazine. It also has one of the highest base DMG in the class?
    btw its 20% not 15%. It's not an accurate weapon so for medium you need an m4 but close it melts. Also, showstopper is really powerful now.
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    Lowering the damage of high RPM weapons alongside increasing the damage of less popular exotics was done in an effort to shake things up with 1.8. The House is a solid SMG, but still a new one at that. We're continuing to monitor the way you guys play with all of the weapons, especially as more players have access to them with the GE. This doesn't exclude the other exotics.
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    Originally Posted by UbiAmper Go to original post
    Lowering the damage of high RPM weapons alongside increasing the damage of less popular exotics was done in an effort to shake things up with 1.8. The House is a solid SMG, but still a new one at that. We're continuing to monitor the way you guys play with all of the weapons, especially as more players have access to them with the GE. This doesn't exclude the other exotics.
    Please leave the House as is. There's nothing wrong with it. It's an Exotic SMG sitting behind RNG (which we all know ruins EVERYTHING) and is inaccurate as hell and quite unstable; so at medium range it suuucks, but it's meant for close combat. You'll still get taken out by a solid MP5, G36, M4, MG5... should I go on.
    To make it great you gotta put accuracy, hurried and stability mods, not to mention you don't get the 3rd slot so if you have low electronics, no determined, and other sustaining skills. So the trade off to use that gun is huge. Oh and it doesnt work with Alphabridge takes an age to reload with the shield without hurried, so you have one slot left.
    It's way too situational to worry about.
    Knee jerk reactions to nerf everything is what kills this game.
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    The house is terrible if the card counter buff isn't activated. It's really mediocre. Keep your distance and eat them up with an assault rifle.

    The House requires you to be pretty close to a target because it grows inaccurate really fast.

    Adjust how you play, not how a gun operates.

    Heck, make a toughness build and get a warlord. The house wouldn't stand a chance.
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    Originally Posted by CMDR-Blackfeet Go to original post
    Please leave the House as is. There's nothing wrong with it. It's an Exotic SMG sitting behind RNG (which we all know ruins EVERYTHING) and is inaccurate as hell and quite unstable; so at medium range it suuucks, but it's meant for close combat. You'll still get taken out by a solid MP5, G36, M4, MG5... should I go on.
    Knee jerk reactions to nerf everything is what kills this game.
    I agree that it shouldn't be nerfed. The idea of OP was to point out that they replaced the M4 with a different meta. Most players will see that the Damage is pretty high and the high rate of fire. Makes it a little OP compared to the other items in the game that just nerfed or buffed to bring balance.
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    Lets be honest here the M4 is still the best assault rifle. The margin just isn't as big as it was before. Still think they should have buffed the others instead especially with the higher TTK now.
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