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  1. #11
    Valk should really be at least B to A-. She's a beast, many people just don't know how to utilize her kit well. But she is literally the assassin slayer everyone begs for. PKs, Shinobis, Shaman, Orochi... They go down quick and easy. I make quick work of Shugoki as well. Warlords, Conqs, and Zerks are the only challenges I face minus super experienced players.

    Her recovery time for light parry upon stance change is horrendous though, so that probably keeps her at a B+ for me.
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  2. #12
    Originally Posted by alustar24 Go to original post
    Then get used to being a sub par player at best.
    How much is Ubisoft paying u to be their little white knight ??, cause all I ever see you do is talk down on anyone who has anything negative to say about the game. **** off.
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by Ultra-Mortis Go to original post
    Personally I would have it like this

    S: Shaman
    A+: Gladiator, Centurion
    A: Shinobi, Aramusha
    A-: Lawbringer, Warden, Peacekeeper, Raider, Nobushi, Warlord
    B+ Shugoki, Valkyrie, Berserker, Orochi
    B: Kensei, Highlander
    B-: Conqueror

    I've gotten HL to REP 25. He's better than everyone says but is in need of having stamina usage reduced when in OF. He's his own worst enemy when it comes to being aggressive.
    why would aramusha be A tier?
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  4. #14
    Originally Posted by SanaMinatozaki- Go to original post
    why would aramusha be A tier?
    People still aren't used to him.
    I get like ten wows and rage quits when I 10 combo a rep 50 PK but I get totally handled by warlords and conqs because they actually know how to block.

    Musha is fun but is dead weight against turtles. Until they fix the GB and give us a guaranteed heavy afterburner, at least.

    He's A C+ in my book for now.
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  5. #15
    Originally Posted by grossbelly Go to original post
    People still aren't used to him.
    I get like ten wows and rage quits when I 10 combo a rep 50 PK but I get totally handled by warlords and conqs because they actually know how to block.

    Musha is fun but is dead weight against turtles. Until they fix the GB and give us a guaranteed heavy afterburner, at least.

    He's A C+ in my book for now.
    Hi~ grossbelly-san

    yes i agree. It needs guaranteed heavy after GB. it is alittle tough to use Aramusha as we are required to switch direction for every attack to chain. not forgetting the soft feint which we might get a little confuse and psychomotor. hands get tired and sore. but i have decided to still use him.
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  6. #16

    "you have 0.98kd and 51.4 winratio, what tier are you?"

    tbh if you went out of your way to view his stats he's already higher tier then you imo
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  7. #17
    All I really can say about your list is that it doesn't work purely for the fact that you lump duel and 4v4 together. Bushi for instance is an instant pick in 4v4. But she's no where near top in duels.

    Personal list for duels since that's really all I play is:

    S tier: warlord, pk, shaman, gladiator
    A tier: Goki, warden, centurion
    B tier: everyone else

    I didn't put anyone in any particular order. I'd have to go back and play much more to be certain of my feelings for that.
    I don't find any character particularly bad. If you're in top tier play or super high tier play skill level wise there is really bad heros.
    But i'm above average at best. And I see pretty much every hero doing just fine here.

    S tier heros don't really have bad match ups and have openers.
    A tier heros either have a way to break defensive play or excel hard at defensive play.
    B tier heros are either lacking in kit depth or flow (some times both) and don't really have a way to open someone who hardly parries and plays super passively.
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  8. #18
    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    All I really can say about your list is that it doesn't work purely for the fact that you lump duel and 4v4 together. Bushi for instance is an instant pick in 4v4. But she's no where near top in duels.

    Personal list for duels since that's really all I play is:

    S tier: warlord, pk, shaman, gladiator
    A tier: Goki, warden, centurion
    B tier: everyone else

    I didn't put anyone in any particular order. I'd have to go back and play much more to be certain of my feelings for that.
    I don't find any character particularly bad. If you're in top tier play or super high tier play skill level wise there is really bad heros.
    But i'm above average at best. And I see pretty much every hero doing just fine here.

    S tier heros don't really have bad match ups and have openers.
    A tier heros either have a way to break defensive play or excel hard at defensive play.
    B tier heros are either lacking in kit depth or flow (some times both) and don't really have a way to open someone who hardly parries and plays super passively.
    Hi~ Knight_Raime san

    Thanks for sharing. What about 4v4 dominion and tribute?
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  9. #19
    Originally Posted by SanaMinatozaki- Go to original post
    Hi~ Knight_Raime san

    Thanks for sharing. What about 4v4 dominion and tribute?
    I can't offer much of an opinion there. never touched tribute yet.
    And bulk of my dominion experience was launch and some of season 2.

    I know Bushi and shaman have some strong presence there. where as people like shinobi and aramusha fall off since they don't offer much in team fights.
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  10. #20
    Originally Posted by SanaMinatozaki- Go to original post
    why would aramusha be A tier?
    Aramusha has some big weaknesses, but his strengths out shine them. Just like shinobi, he can be brutalized quickly but in the hands of an excellent player you can really see these characters shine. I don't believe that he's as good as shinobi out right. It's more of his feats that carry him into that tier. If he ever gets his feats nerfed or changed then he would definitely drop a tier for sure.
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