Bring Shugoki up to speed | Forums

[Ackturi]

I think Shugoki should get some kind of rework done.

Not sure what can be done but against all these new fast heroes it's so hard to trade with hyper armor.

Or maybe I just suck with shugo.

[bob333e]

Agreed, he's the slowest hero, and static hyperarmor doesn't always save him. I barely ever see Shugokis anymore these days.

If anything, props to you for still maining a Shugoki. He's the least used hero now.

[Ackturi]

Agreed, he's the slowest hero, and static hyperarmor doesn't always save him. I barely ever see Shugokis anymore these days.

If anything, props to you for still maining a Shugoki. He's the least used hero now.

I actually just started playing him. For some reason he just seems too sluggish for me with issues.

When I go to GB someone, they stop it by gbing me during animation.

When I go to parry, it's way off. ( I can parry easier on orochi than on shugo for some reason.)

Because of the low mobility, I have a harder time dodging UB moves to gb them for a punish. They counter me easier than if I was on another hero.

GB throws are so FREAKING slow that I get GB in-between the gb and the heavy hit or I just get hit 3-4 times while I throw someone against the wall.

I'm a big dude with muscle right? Why can't I toss people around like it's nothing?

My arms are like T-rex also. I will gb someone right in-front of me and miss.... but at the same distance they gb me to counter the wiff.... lol there's no reach on this big guy at all and he's so slow if someone else is near you can't make a move unless you revenge parry everyone.

[Ackturi]

Anyone realize that NO ONE has taken the time to make a shugoki guide? The only guide I've never really seen because no one wants to play a slow hero against 400-500ms UB bs the devs keep adding.

[bob333e]

I actually just started playing him. For some reason he just seems too sluggish for me with issues.

When I go to GB someone, they stop it by gbing me during animation.

When I go to parry, it's way off. ( I can parry easier on orochi than on shugo for some reason.)

Because of the low mobility, I have a harder time dodging UB moves to gb them for a punish. They counter me easier than if I was on another hero.

GB throws are so FREAKING slow that I get GB in-between the gb and the heavy hit or I just get hit 3-4 times while I throw someone against the wall.

I'm a big dude with muscle right? Why can't I toss people around like it's nothing?

My arms are like T-rex also. I will gb someone right in-front of me and miss.... but at the same distance they gb me to counter the wiff.... lol there's no reach on this big guy at all and he's so slow if someone else is near you can't make a move unless you revenge parry everyone.

I only used him twice, and both were PvAI duels. I agree; he feels so clunky. He might have been alright alongside the OG roster, but now with even faster and faster heroes.... he definitely needs a new kit. He can't stay like this.
It's a shame, too. I really like how his Legendary Tier gear looks like. I'd have made him my secondary, but I fell for Highlander for that spot. Still haven't bought him yet though. Still feel I need more experience and training with my main.

Concerning guides, my first thoughts would be to check YT, rather than here. Here it's mostly complaints, rants... with the occasional good suggestions, and then the community creations corner. YT would probably satiate any tutorial needs.

[Ackturi]

I only used him twice, and both were PvAI duels. I agree; he feels so clunky. He might have been alright alongside the OG roster, but now with even faster and faster heroes.... he definitely needs a new kit. He can't stay like this.
It's a shame, too. I really like how his Legendary Tier gear looks like. I'd have made him my secondary, but I fell for Highlander for that spot. Still haven't bought him yet though. Still feel I need more experience and training with my main.

Concerning guides, my first thoughts would be to check YT, rather than here. Here it's mostly complaints, rants... with the occasional good suggestions, and then the community creations corner. YT would probably satiate any tutorial needs.

Yeah, all the guides i've seen are old and with all the changes happening it's hard to know what works anymore.

[bob333e]

Yeah, all the guides i've seen are old and with all the changes happening it's hard to know what works anymore.

Ah, good point. Been a while since the playerbase really focused on the Shugoki, it's likely very few, if any, did an updated guide how to counter the new heroes with Shugoki.

Damn. Shugoki is sounding like an urgent case right now.

[Ackturi]

Didn't they update that if you GB same time they cancel out? This doesn't only happen to me because of revenge! Countless people GB same time as me but I get grabbed.

[bob333e]

Didn't they update that if you GB same time they cancel out? This doesn't only happen to me because of revenge! Countless people GB same time as me but I get grabbed.

Yeah, I think it's Shugoki having more GB animation frames, making his whole GB animation a bit slower; hitting GB same time as your opponent would basically net a free GB for your opponent, as if you were simply dodging forward into his GB. And telegraphing a GB ahead of time is near-impossible for us to press GB before the opponent even initiates the GB; let alone without considering the connectivity issues and latency.

Shugoki is in a mess of a state.

[UbiJurassic]

I think Shugoki should get some kind of rework done.

Not sure what can be done but against all these new fast heroes it's so hard to trade with hyper armor.

Or maybe I just suck with shugo.

Currently, all 12 original heroes are being looked at for future changes to bring them more in-line with the rest of the hero roster. While we haven't expanded upon how in-depth the changes to Shugoki will be, we'll be sure to get that info out to players as it becomes available.