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    Rank dominion Opinions & suggestion

    Hi, Ive noticed that rank Dominion has less players than i would have hoped for. I have my Ideas why and also opinions on how to fix this. So i like how your doing the 1 class per fight like most moba rank games, however this is not a moba type game. In a moba its quite easy to learn how to play 10 heroes as they each only have 4-5 buttons to press and its very easy to play multiple classes. But in for honor, myself and probably lots of others main 1-2 classes and don't really play others. The characters in this game ave very complex and not easy to just jump on a hero if the 1-2 heroes u know how to play are taken.(unlike a moba, and u don't want to chance hurting your rank because u got stuck with your 3rd string hero who u really don't know how to play) So this reason people like me might not Q up into this mode. Now i do love the idea of only 1 hero each team but it might be better with this game to Q up as who u want to play first, then it would find players that are different classes to match u up with. this way u can play who u know how to play and not get blamed for sucking from your team simply because your hero got selected.Basiclly pick your players first. sure you won't be able to arrange a team that u might want so once your into your team with your pre picked hero at this point anyone can have one last chance to change characters or talk with the team in cases where maybe u got stuck with 4 heavies or what not... maybe there could be something in the matchmaking that won't allow over 2 of the same class types to be put on a team.. Thats just my opinion. take it or leave it.
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    OH forgot gear score too..

    Also, in this game u have gear score, mobas don't. everyone starts off the same. So lots of people won't have multiple characters with good enough gear on more than one hero. Just another thought..so maybe have to just not use gear score? but thats not fun...One more reason why i might not want to Q up for rank mode. I only have 1 character thats good enough to play 4v4. Ive not actually played a rank yet so if any of these things are addressed i apologise. Reason is I'm trying to get my first heart to a max gear score before i Q up...Lets hope i can get him before others do.. or my team is stuck with a 25 gear score hero!!! ya baby!! don't yell at me please!
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    Gear score is turned off in ranked, so your gear doesn't matter, however the ranked dominion mode gives not a lot incentive to play to begin with, solo pick will scare most players away because, as you said, most don't play more than 2 different heroes due to the complexity of every kit.

    Another reason is the turned off gear score, yes you hear me right, there are actually a lot of players who don't see the point of playing a mode where the gear they farmed for months is worthless, some are afraid that without the stats they got to get used to they won't perform good.

    In other words, the ranked dominion mode is flawed in a way, that the things making it worth playing (no gear score, solo pick, competitive matches) are scarring off a lot of players at the same time (hard work of gear made worthless, small amount of actually played heroes per player, toxic behavior born out of the competitive thinking).

    Having high que times and a terrible matchmaking (both results of the above) put the nail into the coffin that is ranked dominion.

    A possible solution would be to give more incentive to play the mode by increasing steel income after every match, maybe make it so that player in certain tiers get a set amount of steel at the end of every season (f.e. 5000 steel for gold 5, 5500 steel for plat 1 and so on). Maybe you introduce a new currency that can only be acquired by playing/winning ranked matches and give it a shop with that currency used instead of steel (you could put the old head pieces of past season solo tournament rewards in it, or certain weapon and armor skins).

    As it stands right now ranked dominion will be like elimination but worse and there have to be changes to both ranked dominion as well as solo tournaments.
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    How about 1.5-2 times XP and/or steel gain as incentive to play ranked instead regural dominion?
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    Originally Posted by Arekonator Go to original post
    How about 1.5-2 times XP and/or steel gain as incentive to play ranked instead regural dominion?
    That would be a great start, but I think a reward tied to your achieved rank or something you can only get by playing ranked dominion is needed so that a lot of people get interested in the game mode.
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    It makes me sad that the population is so low. The way I see it there are a few reasons why this is the case:

    • Lag and resyncs will make it an unpleasant experience which some will try to exploit. Solution: Dedicated servers.
    • Ranked mode is a skill check some people don't like. Solution: Increase the incentives to play ranked Dominion by increasing match end reward.
    • There are no orders for ranked mode. Solution: Issue a recurring weekly order which in its first stage require you to get a rank. When you have a rank it changes to: Play 10 ranked dominion games for a 1000 steel reward.
    • Long wait time for finding a match. Solution: Increase player activity by implementing all of the above.
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    Agree

    Yea i never even thought about the hard work of getting the gear. People for sure want to play as their unique character that they geared out and not be on the same field as every other player with having no gear score. What is the point of gear score if u can't even use it. Basically if u practice in unranked with your gear score..then go into rank without and expect your character to react the same it won't. So basically unranked mode isn't really even help u for rank mode anyway. I don't like the idea of making people only want to play the mode is for the extra xp or steel. Basically then people won't care about rank and they will just play it for the rewards. I really don't like the single pick, I'm not going to play with a character i don't know how to use or even want to play. Either let us pick before we Q up for the game or make it not single pick. I do want to have control on who i play and i do want gear score in rank as well. thats the deal breaker on rank for me.
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    If they are going to do single pick for heroes I like the idea of selecting your hero before the match and queuing that way. If they did that, the best way to group for ranked would be hard on class instead of your hero: they ranked match will have a vanguard, heavy, assassin and hybrid.
    Also does anyone know if you can group queue? That also might be another reason. I don't know too many serious players that want to PUG random ranked matches.
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    Originally Posted by Playing_Mantis Go to original post
    Yea i never even thought about the hard work of getting the gear. People for sure want to play as their unique character that they geared out and not be on the same field as every other player with having no gear score. What is the point of gear score if u can't even use it. Basically if u practice in unranked with your gear score..then go into rank without and expect your character to react the same it won't. So basically unranked mode isn't really even help u for rank mode anyway. I don't like the idea of making people only want to play the mode is for the extra xp or steel. Basically then people won't care about rank and they will just play it for the rewards. I really don't like the single pick, I'm not going to play with a character i don't know how to use or even want to play. Either let us pick before we Q up for the game or make it not single pick. I do want to have control on who i play and i do want gear score in rank as well. thats the deal breaker on rank for me.
    Ranked dominion is supposed to be a skill check, gear score destroys that, I understand why people don't want to play without their precious gear, that doesn't mean I agree with that.

    Choosing the hero you want to play before queuing up is a great idea, it just comes with the backslash of further increasing the que times for people playing popular characters, so I don't know if that will ever be implemented.

    If you don't increase the incentive to play by giving people more steel/unique rewards it'll stay as it is right now, we can see that almost nobody is interested in playing the ranked dominion mode and that won't change if you don't give players a reason to care about it. A great example for this are the tiers itself, it might be interesting for some to find out where they stand on a ranked ladder, but why bother with such a mess of a game mode that doesn't even reward you more than normal dominion and is most likely just more toxic than normal mode? For a badge that is displayed on the left upper corner of your screen? No thanks.
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    Originally Posted by alustar24 Go to original post
    If they are going to do single pick for heroes I like the idea of selecting your hero before the match and queuing that way. If they did that, the best way to group for ranked would be hard on class instead of your hero: they ranked match will have a vanguard, heavy, assassin and hybrid.
    Also does anyone know if you can group queue? That also might be another reason. I don't know too many serious players that want to PUG random ranked matches.
    A class que could still result in players wanting to play the same, I for example have 3 assassins, 2 hybrids and 1 vanguard above rep 1, if I que for vanguard, I might end up not being able to play it because of someone else also queuing for vanguard, I could just take another of my classes, others can't and that's the problem.

    I don't have friends who want to play ranked dominion so I can't help you there ;-;
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