Peacekeeper speed nerfed? | Forums

[PDXGorechild]

[ChampionRuby50g]

Could you go into detail on my arguments then if I am over-exaggerating? PK got nerfed over and over, then they introduced Bugs with the removal of Timesnap, and before they fixed that mess they nerf her again? Come on, the only thing you had to do when a PK get's Revenge was dodge back and you were out of her Zone Spam. In high MMR this Zone Spam in Revenge does not even happen as everybody will parry your 2nd or 3rd Zone anyway.

She got nerfed over and over at the start of the game because she was clearly overpowered. Using the words "brutal nerf" is an over exaggeration. It makes it sound like you think it's ok for her to have almost no recovery on zone, just because bugs appeared with time snap removal. Other heroes have 0 recovery frames on moves (Nobushi for example) which I think is BS and should be nerfed as well.

I think you haven't accepted the fact that the majority of players on this game are not in a high MMR, and as annoying as it is, the game will start to be balanced for that to keep more players in a already low populated game.

PK is still an A-S tier class hero, and very strong when played right, as you should know. What more could you want?

[Oupyz]

She got nerfed over and over at the start of the game because she was clearly overpowered. Using the words "brutal nerf" is an over exaggeration. It makes it sound like you think it's ok for her to have almost no recovery on zone, just because bugs appeared with time snap removal. Other heroes have 0 recovery frames on moves (Nobushi for example) which I think is BS and should be nerfed as well.

I think you haven't accepted the fact that the majority of players on this game are not in a high MMR, and as annoying as it is, the game will start to be balanced for that to keep more players in a already low populated game.

PK is still an A-S tier class hero, and very strong when played right, as you should know. What more could you want?

what Does he want , even stronger pk =))

[RazireKVD]

I just asked if the Peacekeeper's default light attack speed was reduced, and now there are people bringing the Aramusha and the Peacekeeper's zone attack into this. ._.
She is definitely not the fastest light attacker in the game, but she does currently feel slower in light attack speed than the Warlord.

Anybody do a test or something regarding the current attack speed compared to older attack speeds for her? I'd be interested in seeing it just to see if there's an error in her attacks or if she really was speed nerfed.

[UbiJurassic]

Played Peacekeeper after a long time of basically being other classes, and the Peacekeeper seems shockingly slower in her attacks.
Was there a stealth nerf at some point, or perhaps an error in patching the nerf for her zone attack?

She just seems to slow compared to what she used to be, and it's kind of debilitating to her. I like Peacekeeper, and slowing her default attacks is a really bad idea, and I hope that this is just an error.

I can confirm that this is not only my opinion. My player group for For Honor all generally feels that the Peacekeeper is slower.

Is anyone else experiencing this slowdown in attacks?

Other than the recent changes detailed in Live Update 1.15.1, there shouldn't be any other changes that would make her feel slower than usual. I'll certainly note down the concerns though and keep an eye out for similar reports from players.

I am a PK Main and since the Patch - yes, PK feels "slower" or, in my words, "clunky". The pause after a Zone is too long, you do a Zone, cancel the 2nd hit and then you wait for your opponent to attack... It's not like PK has many options left to go offensive - mostly it was mindgames if you go Zone into an immediate light to start a chain, a soft-feinted heavy GB or just a light attack. Now Zone is bullsht as a starter. What does she have left? And meanwhile Aramusha is light-chaining all over until the sun goes down and up again...

This is an especially brutal nerf because her Bugs that came up with the removal of Timesnap, which I reported and got confirmed MONTHS AGO, are not fixed or even mentioned! Have a look here:
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...mesnap-removal

@UbiJurassic or @UbiInsulin: Please "forward" this to the Devs. Fix PK soft-feints in chains asap!

I'll make sure the thread you previously created is noted. If I hear back from the team on it, I'll look to let you know.

[Oupyz]

UbiJurrasic, don't mind charmzzz pk is very very strong S-Tier Character , if u wanna bring note to the team , look at other heroes who are in dire need for buff

[Charmzzz]

She is definitely not the fastest light attacker in the game, but she does currently feel slower in light attack speed than the Warlord.

Anybody do a test or something regarding the current attack speed compared to older attack speeds for her? I'd be interested in seeing it just to see if there's an error in her attacks or if she really was speed nerfed.

She has 500ms Light's which are, among other Characters Light Attacks - the fastest in the game. Her Zone Attack is @400ms - together with some other moves of other Characters (e.g. WL Headbutt, Shinobi Front Kick) this is the fastest ingame move overall.

I did not test it though. Lights feel Ok for me, I just have a problem with the huge gap between a Zone and the next move I can do.

PK is still an A-S tier class hero, and very strong when played right, as you should know. What more could you want?

Not in my skill range, she is maybe B-A there. Other Characters (Nobu, LB, Raider, Shaman, Shinobi, WL) are much stronger when played right. And by right I mean cheesy (e.g. turtle, double dodge, Stampede / Impale / Charge). What I want? That PK gets FIXED. Not BUFFED. They destroyed her mixup game completely with the removal of Timesnap, so I HAVE TO LIGHT SPAM now to get someone killed. I never did that before, but those Bugs made it impossible to use Chains effectively in high level play...

UbiJurrasic, don't mind charmzzz pk is very very strong S-Tier Character , if u wanna bring note to the team , look at other heroes who are in dire need for buff

Wow, this is just.... Wow... You want a Community Manager to ignore a User and his concerns? Even more impressive when there were BUGS introduced on PK with the removal of Timesnap which made her even more a Light-Spam Character because other moves and mixups in her kit JUST DONT WORK ANYMORE.

What is wrong with you? I do not want PK buffed, I want her FIXED.

[David_gorda]

^pk is still S tier. Show me one Of best team that dont use pk in 4vs 4. Pk is also the most used Class 2vs 2 competive brawls for a long long time. Pk Always get far in 1vs 1 tournaments aswell.

[Charmzzz]

^pk is still S tier. Show me one Of best team that dont use pk in 4vs 4. Pk is also the most used Class 2vs 2 competive brawls for a long long time. Pk Always get far in 1vs 1 tournaments aswell.

I cannot see your profile on FH Tracker, but here is mine: https://fhtracker.com/profile/pc/Charmzzz

As you can see, I am playing in the top 5-10 percentile. All I see in Dominion is LB, Raider, Nobushi, Shaman. Rarely a PK. You want 2 Tanks / Disablers, 1 Nobushi and a "DPS" in your team. But this is almost never a PK because Shinobi / Shaman / Berserker do that job much better atm. Tactic: gank with LB / Raider for an Impale / Stampede, there comes the Berserker for a high damage top heavy plus hyperarmor. Have a group fight? Nobushi will rule it cause you cannot parry her wide-arc attacks when you are not the target.

The thing is, a PK does not have the tools to disable / stagger / force reactions from opponents. No unblockable means, in a ganking situation, just block the side of the PK, maybe CGB, and you do not have to worry about her at all.

Evidence of your claims? Show me please. Because all you do is "blabla PK S-Tier because I say so". Also, are you speaking for Console or PC? I am on PC. I know that Light Spam Characters are a problem on Console, and they all get far in Tournaments and such, but that only shows me that you did not understand my point. The bugs that were introduced and are still there on PK made her even more reliant on Light Spam. If they fix it - PK's do not need to only spam Lights!

[David_gorda]

https://fhtracker.com/profile/psn/davidgorda This My record and i play solo since season 2. Sure it might be a few better classes in 4vs4. I predict alot Of brawls Will be pk and shaman combo. The thing is there alot Of other classes that need help like highlander, kensai and conq.
Btw are you saying that matchmaking works in dominion on PC. Its just random People on all skill levels on ps4, duels and brawls Seems To have okish matchmaking but 4vs 4 is a mess.