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[bob333e]

You sound like an idiot. Its not about not liking them, it's about the facts.
FACT: Shaman is the strongest character in the game still.
FACT: In the right hands, and the right game mode, it is nigh impossible, especially if its a 1v2 situation. Go on dominion and test that theory you got for yourself about how weak she is.
FACT: For Honor on console runs at 30 frames per second, which makes shaman un-reactable.
Im a total rep 60, i've been playing this game since the beta, for a little background. So don't be saying "ugh you just need to get gud" to people in this discussion, who have a legitamate problem with this character. Nobody cares if your good enough to counter shaman.

I've just read your message under another thread begging Ubisoft to completely remove Shaman from the game, and in here you're saying above she's completely unreactable on console.

I take it, you mostly focus on Dominion where, if you meet more than two Shamans on the opposing team, you tend to end up getting ganked by them, and you get little to no chance to defend yourself from them in particular. I get that.

Shaman's moveset isn't what's broken about her. It was damage values and tracking hitboxes. Which are still being looked into and will be updated again mid-December, effectively balancing her further.

During development of the Season 4 characters, they've put so much work on Shaman, and it shows. Yeah, she's not fully polished. But her kit is amazing, she's really different from the other heroes and because she's different, she poses a challenge to us. The very purpose about new season characters is to add fresh, new things to the roster. To have you say to them to completely delete her should make you think about how ridiculous, childish, and whiny this statement is.

Secondly, she's very reactable on console. I'm on PS4, and I've been improving, slow and steady, against level 3 Shaman bots. She's hard and fast, but she's not impossible to beat. Quite the contrary. Know your enemy, and you will defeat them. Blindfold yourself in rage and whine on, you accomplish nothing.

The issue in PvP isn't with Shaman, it's the connection issues, and when there are connection issues, honestly, every hero can be tedious to deal with. Take Gladiator's pokes. Take Centurion's Kick. Take Peacekeeper's zone. Take Nobushi's pokes. Take Shinobi's flips. What? you want Ubisoft to delete all these characters too?

Thirdly, using active offense against others in a discussion completely beats your role in said discussion, and completely refutes whatever point you were trying to make in the first place.

And before you low-ball into "shaman main defending his class" I'm a Warden main, and I do not own any DLC character. And I will not main her, ever. She makes a lot of things too easy with her amazing kit flow. Hence why inexperienced lackey newbies can use her more effectively than other heroes. She's swift and solid, and she hits hard too. But she's not my style.

[Oupyz]

I've just read your message under another thread begging Ubisoft to completely remove Shaman from the game, and in here you're saying above she's completely unreactable on console.

I take it, you mostly focus on Dominion where, if you meet more than two Shamans on the opposing team, you tend to end up getting ganked by them, and you get little to no chance to defend yourself from them in particular. I get that.

Shaman's moveset isn't what's broken about her. It was damage values and tracking hitboxes. Which are still being looked into and will be updated again mid-December, effectively balancing her further.

During development of the Season 4 characters, they've put so much work on Shaman, and it shows. Yeah, she's not fully polished. But her kit is amazing, she's really different from the other heroes and because she's different, she poses a challenge to us. The very purpose about new season characters is to add fresh, new things to the roster. To have you say to them to completely delete her should make you think about how ridiculous, childish, and whiny this statement is.

Secondly, she's very reactable on console. I'm on PS4, and I've been improving, slow and steady, against level 3 Shaman bots. She's hard and fast, but she's not impossible to beat. Quite the contrary. Know your enemy, and you will defeat them. Blindfold yourself in rage and whine on, you accomplish nothing.

The issue in PvP isn't with Shaman, it's the connection issues, and when there are connection issues, honestly, every hero can be tedious to deal with. Take Gladiator's pokes. Take Centurion's Kick. Take Peacekeeper's zone. Take Nobushi's pokes. Take Shinobi's flips. What? you want Ubisoft to delete all these characters too?

Thirdly, using active offense against others in a discussion completely beats your role in said discussion, and completely refutes whatever point you were trying to make in the first place.

And before you low-ball into "shaman main defending his class" I'm a Warden main, and I do not own any DLC character. And I will not main her, ever. She makes a lot of things too easy with her amazing kit flow. Hence why inexperienced lackey newbies can use her more effectively than other heroes. She's swift and solid, and she hits hard too. But she's not my style.

you are very correct the biggest issue right now is the connection issue i just played a duel vs a shugoki that made me rage quit his connection was going green red green red

and his light and heavy were all over my screen i couldn't even counter a normal guardbreak,, and thats on pc

yeah since removal of that timesnap thing everything went to hell , same heroes sometimes they attack normal sometimes the attack comes 100ms faster it really depend on people connection so my advice to everyone whinning this game is casual , u can't take it seriously it's very unstable on the network side for a fighting game so lets wait for dedicated server and after that we can look at the hero balance.

Ubisoft for god sake add that timesnap back will you already

[Alustar.exe]

Meh. Seems more like they're bad for you because you don't like them.

You sound like an idiot. Its not about not liking them, it's about the facts.
FACT: Shaman is the strongest character in the game still.
FACT: In the right hands, and the right game mode, it is nigh impossible, especially if its a 1v2 situation. Go on dominion and test that theory you got for yourself about how weak she is.
FACT: For Honor on console runs at 30 frames per second, which makes shaman un-reactable.
Im a total rep 60, i've been playing this game since the beta, for a little background. So don't be saying "ugh you just need to get gud" to people in this discussion, who have a legitamate problem with this character. Nobody cares if your good enough to counter shaman.[/QUOTE]

So I guess all those times I've run my shaman and been blocked and parried consistently from a light attack means that person was just consistently lucky?
Players need to stop using the "this is unreactable" crutch. At almost a year into the game I think is safe to Suu both the developers and the players know fully well what is and isn't reactable. Instead of whining for nerfs, try asking for help.

[Vakris_One]

You sound like an idiot.

Fair warning, I have already stopped taking you seriously right here. Anyone who chucks out insults instead of making their point politely and calmly has already lost the argument.