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    Originally Posted by GNWHecate Go to original post
    True is barely playing an hour duels per week fo late. He came back for the start of season 4 and has already became sickened by the current state of the game. Sypher and skys have been discontent for awhile too. That's just off the top of my head.
    Too bad for them I guess, I don't follow Sypher or Skys.. True however isn't sickened by the new direction this game is headed in, please don't make stuff up about the guy. He's said on more than one occassion that it is finally headed in the right direction in his opinion. He was thrilled with the removal of health regen and he actually enjoys playing the Aramusha. He moves on to other games frequently so it's no reall surprise his main focus isn't For Honor anymore.
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    Anyways the whole point of this topic wasn't that spamming one move is effective to win. But rather that the majority of characters post launch have access to easily used unblockables and lightning fast-attacks that the original roster simply cannot deal with. As I said I'm aware of the incoming reworks for older characters to bring them in line with the new, but if that means adding the same lame cheesy gimmicks to all classes then I am hugely disappointed with the direction the game is heading.

    To clarify; my complaint isn't that characters like shaman/glad/whatever has access to these tools while others don't. My complaint is the fact that these tools even exist in the first place. The game has evolved alot over the course of 3 seasons in a direction that I simply do not care. I was first interested in the title BECAUSE of the slower paced combat with thought and reading your opponent. The majority of that is obsolete now turning into a combofest of guaranteed damage, at this rate it's noly a matter of time before we get Tekken style air combos too.
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    That I agree with. The game does seem to be moving towards a more fast paced, almost frenzied style of attacking. I do miss the strategy and calculated attacks of the early betas when the art of combat was in its heyday. The problem I see is with the playerbase to be honest. It always happens in PvP games to some extent. Players start finding and using every single cheese move and safe tactic they can get and that spreads like wild fire throughout the community until everyone starts using only safe moves.
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    Originally Posted by GNWHecate Go to original post
    True is barely playing an hour duels per week fo late. He came back for the start of season 4 and has already became sickened by the current state of the game. Sypher and skys have been discontent for awhile too. That's just off the top of my head.
    So a couple of youtubers turn out to not be as pro as everyone thinks and that's a cause for alarm? I'm honestly curious if you've actually picked up the be heroes and played them before you made this post. Go spam with any hero and see how far that gets you in a match. Even in 4s you can't go crazy with the spam or risk getting screwed by a recent popped.
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    You seem to be mistaking a personal skill with opinion on the game. The guys in question competed in one or more season finals, accusing them of lack of skill is mistaken.
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    The slower style of fighting you where talking about has a name: The Turtle Meta. Players complained that it was not fun to play as, and that everyone hated turtles so Ubisoft have listened and these recent heroes are designed to combat the turtle meta. I think the game is headed in a very good direction with the combat right now, but also believe that Ubisoft has a lot of work to do in ironing out all the bugs and issues the game has.
    What we can learn from this thread is that no matter what, the community will never be happy. We are finally putting the turtle meta behind us, but now people are starting to complain that it's not as slow. All the calculated attacks from the start of the game? Waiting for your enemy to make a move and react to that constantly instead of doing anything yourself you mean.
    If you can't adapt to the way the game is going, don't beg for it to be changed back. Switch on a little more, and you can find it's still very much possible to be calculating and have a strategy while playing aggressive.
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    Originally Posted by Arekonator Go to original post
    You seem to be mistaking a personal skill with opinion on the game. The guys in question competed in one or more season finals, accusing them of lack of skill is mistaken.
    You mean 1v1 tournaments? Right, ok sure let's talk about that. These youtubers had trouble with 1v1. The slowest of all the multiplayer game modes, and honestly that right there is the main issue. we have this huge out cry for balance, but you can't balance everything around just duels. But go on, I'd love to hear more about how pro this guy is you watch play video games. :/
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    Pretty sure we are not talking about the same guys then but thats beside the point. Though i wonder how qualifying through countless tournaments to get into finals means they "have trouble" with 1v1.

    Also you are hardly "leaving behind the turtle meta" unless you happen to play specific characters and on top, those characters still benefit fully from turtling if they decide to do so. To truly put the turtle meta behind, as you say, would mean bring all other characters up to speed in addition to overhauling the combat system in general - both of those are promised. For now, its leaving the turtle meta behind about as much as shugoki charge spam or raider charge spam did.

    Aditionally i am not complaining about game changes, save for some specific issues with shaman which i adressed elsewhere (and which are getting mostly adressed with next patch.

    Going "lol you are just bad and need to git gud" to anyone who voices complaints about new characters/changes/whatever just makes you seem like paid shill and condescending c*nt.

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    Well, right now I am playing Dominion and there is this guy who his sending irritating Wow Wow texts because he being killed now and then. But why he is doing that? Because he is playing as Shaman and somehow believes he shoud win every fight.

    He just tried to take away zone with only 1 bar of health left and I killed him easily. Guess what, he is completely surprised, how the hell I was able to kill him?

    These cocky Millennials , what else to say
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    90% of Arumusha span nothing but lights: I consider myself a part of the 10%. There have only been around 2-3 others I've seen that, like I do, use the mix ups; feint lights into heavies, feint heavies into lights, use the Parry attacks(Kick, Unblockable, Quick heavy, etc), parry in general and use the dodging attacks. What does it tell you that the people who use the character without the cheesy tactics hate the people who do. Honestly takes a lot of skill to really play the character to its full extent and its maddening to be killed by another arumusha using infinite light attacks and ganks
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