So nearly a campaign in, what do we think of the Faction War changes? | Forums

[Illyrian_King]

Honestly guys am I the only one in this forum, who's only matter with the Faction War is that it actually has nothing to do with you know ... "Faction"

You play a knight and help vikings to slay some other knights. It doesn't feel like a faction war at all !!!

[CandleInTheDark]

Honestly guys am I the only one in this forum, who's only matter with the Faction War is that it actually has nothing to do with you know ... "Faction"

You play a knight and help vikings to slay some other knights. It doesn't feel like a faction war at all !!!

People are quite free to only play characters in their own faction, but given I am not telling them they are 'doing it wrong' (for example no one is better than nobushi in the soldier zone and some people would argue you are hindering your team if you try anything else there) I also don't think they should get to tell me I am doing it wrong for liking characters in other factions and playing them. It takes around 50-70 hours to get a character to rep 7, maybe 30-60 if you hit a double xp weekend pending how long you play during it, and if I have gotten five characters there my time should be equally rewarded whoever I am using.

The reps have also said on more than one occasion when people have brought up single pick and character bans that the devs do not want to restrict player choice and I would assume that the same applies here.

[Illyrian_King]

People are quite free to only play characters in their own faction, but given I am not telling them they are 'doing it wrong' (for example no one is better than nobushi in the soldier zone and some people would argue you are hindering your team if you try anything else there) I also don't think they should get to tell me I am doing it wrong for liking characters in other factions and playing them. It takes around 50-70 hours to get a character to rep 7, maybe 30-60 if you hit a double xp weekend pending how long you play during it, and if I have gotten five characters there my time should be equally rewarded whoever I am using.

The reps have also said on more than one occasion when people have brought up single pick and character bans that the devs do not want to restrict player choice and I would assume that the same applies here.

That's all fine mate, but tell me ... is there a mechanic, that you ONLY get matched with people from your own faction as your team?

Do you see my point? The faction you choose doesn't matter at all!

You fight with players from other factions against players from your faction (causing them to get less war assets/troops), kill minions of your faction, conquer castles from your faction.

I was dissappointed about this, since launch! Where is the point of choosing a faction if the only mechanic about is to deploy my troops (like I still care about it after all ;b )

[CandleInTheDark]

Also you will see flashing shields and sword icons I think these are “hot spots” where a large number of people on your team are placing their war banners.

Slight correction here, the hot spots are where your faction's numbers are closest to the other factions. If you have three territories where the difference is 30,000 assets and the rest are 100,000 or above, those are the three that will be flashing.

That's all fine mate, but tell me ... is there a mechanic, that you ONLY get matched with people from your own faction as your team?

Do you see my point? The faction you choose doesn't matter at all!

You fight with players from other factions against players from your faction (causing them to get less war assets/troops), kill minions of your faction, conquer castles from your faction.

I was dissappointed about this, since launch! Where is the point of choosing a faction if the only mechanic about is to deploy my troops (like I still care about it after all ;b )

As I said to Vordred, if the devs could find a way to do that I would have no problem at all, it makes sense to group people in the same faction, my issue is with people telling me I shouldn't play characters because they aren't my faction. Re-reading your first post it seems I misinterpreted that since the last time factions came up I was arguing against the thought that there should be a bonus for using characters in your faction. If you meant players, as opposed to characters, from the start I apologise.

[NHLGoldenKnight]

Faction War would be much more better if Ubisoft implements one simple change which would be that you get War assets ONLY if you play as a hero from your faction. If not, you can still play but you don't get any War assets at the end of match. Fair enough?

[Vordred]

Faction War would be much more better if Ubisoft implements one simple change which would be that you get War assets ONLY if you play as a hero from your faction. If not, you can still play but you don't get any War assets at the end of match. Fair enough?

yeah, i have purposed that a few time in the past, but you get the ones that cry they are being punished, for playing the characters they like, so even tried going for you get more assets if you play a character from your faction. but people would still moan that it's not fair.

so Faction War seems like it will forever just be a pointless extra bit of fluff that has nothing to do with a faction war.

lol maybe in the future if i get put on a team with Viking and samurai faction players and the other team is all or mostly knights, i should just sabotage my team and cause us to lose, to better help my faction lol

[CandleInTheDark]

Faction War would be much more better if Ubisoft implements one simple change which would be that you get War assets ONLY if you play as a hero from your faction. If not, you can still play but you don't get any War assets at the end of match. Fair enough?

So basically, you are fine with being the only ember of your faction who gets rewarded if the rest in the game who are in your faction play characters from a different one, right?

yeah, i have purposed that a few time in the past, but you get the ones that cry they are being punished, for playing the characters they like, so even tried going for you get more assets if you play a character from your faction. but people would still moan that it's not fair.

so Faction War seems like it will forever just be a pointless extra bit of fluff that has nothing to do with a faction war.

lol maybe in the future if i get put on a team with Viking and samurai faction players and the other team is all or mostly knights, i should just sabotage my team and cause us to lose, to better help my faction lol

You're talking about two different things here, in terms of being on teams with players from another faction, I agree that it would be better if you could be matched with players from yours. In terms of characters then yes that limits choice.

I get it, both of you, there are people who play only characters from their faction, that is their choice, evidently you two do that too. Cool, you do you, no one is telling you that you should not play the game how you want to play it. But you are not returning the favour, you are telling me that I should not get to play the game how I enjoy it because I happen to care about faction war but have characters I like outside my faction and that is not something that any player should have to be made to make a choice over, whether they have fun playing who they feel like or give a damn about faction war.

[NHLGoldenKnight]

Sorry if I am not being clear, English is unfortunately my second language

What I am suggesting would not really stop anyone from playing his favourite hero. Only difference would be that people who use heroes from different faction would not get War Assets at the end of the game. Or they would get let's say only half of what they would usually get.Many players don't care about faction war that much at all and such system would reward players faithful to their faction and those who care. It would make faction selection more important and faction war would be IMO, more interesting and representative of situation at the field .

I do also think that other idea makes sense as well. To be matched only to your faction and heroes from your faction and it would be extremely interesting to see matches being played between Knights, Vikings and Samurai. However, matchmaking probably would be slow (if possible at al l) and I would only implement that idea as seperate game mod, something like Faction Dominion for instance.

As of first suggestion, I believe it would be feasible for sure and it wpuld improve faction war with least required resources and time.

[CandleInTheDark]

Sorry if I am not being clear, English is unfortunately my second language

What I am suggesting would not really stop anyone from playing his favourite hero. Only difference would be that people who use heroes from different faction would not get War Assets at the end of the game. Or they would get let's say only half of what they would usually get.Many players don't care about faction war that much at all and such system would reward players faithful to their faction and those who care. It would make faction selection more important and faction war would be IMO, more interesting and representative of situation at the field .

I actually did get what you meant from the beginning, I understand that you meant that it would not stop people playing their favourite character, what it does do is make them choose between playing their favourite character or taking part in the faction war.

I do care about the faction war, I want my faction to win and I want to contribute towards that. I am in a discord group that co-ordinates asset allocation and I have three characters in my faction that are at rep 7 and in top rarity gear, I also have two characters outside my faction that are at rep 7, that I have spent 50-70 hours on getting there, that fill roles in 4v4 and that I like better than those in my faction that perform those same roles, and I should not be made to choose between playing them when I feel like it and taking part in faction war.

As I said, you do you, you play the game as you find fun, it is what we all came here to do and you have every right to do that, that right ends where you deny people that same right and that is what that idea would do, it would make me either not play the character I feel like playing or not contribute to something I want to contribute to and forcing that choice would be a bad choice for the game.

[NHLGoldenKnight]

Well, do not look at that as only being punished. You can be rewarded as well, if playing hero from your faction. Because currently, there is really no incentive to use heroes from your faction unless you really want to. So it would give you more reason to support your faction and it would improve immersion. And older games like me, these days we only want immersion and realism. I know, i know. Guilty as charged.

Anyway, would you personally have an issue with same idea just if it still would reward you with half War assets of what you would get if using your faction hero?