Warrior's Den November 23rd | Forums

[Zhantay]

I'm glad they are addressing Shaman quickly, hopefully this will lessen her effect on 4v4 game modes because on console its pretty much who has more Shamans.

Had 1 game yesterday where everyone was just using OG Heroes and the game was enjoyable then someone joined in the lobby after it was over, picked Shaman and my teammates were getting mauled.

[vgrimr_J]

they are gonna give shaman a centurion treatment so that means she is not gonna be fixed any time soon

[CandleInTheDark]

they are gonna give shaman a centurion treatment so that means she is not gonna be fixed any time soon

Did you actually listen to the Den?

Predator's mercy distance halved, a whole bunch of damages including predator's mercy down 5hp, recovery on wildcat's rage and regular block up,all of this hopefully for next week, tracking fix ready to go next time they have a title update which is usually middle of the month.

That's pretty substantial for a starting nerf and there might be more coming.

[vgrimr_J]

Did you actually listen to the Den?

Predator's mercy distance halved, a whole bunch of damages including predator's mercy down 5hp, recovery on wildcat's rage and regular block up,all of this hopefully for next week, tracking fix ready to go next time they have a title update which is usually middle of the month.

That's pretty substantial for a starting nerf and there might be more coming.

oh, miss read my bad. did they say when its coming? weeks or months ?

[Charmzzz]

Copied from OP:

Shaman, they are looking at how she is performing and the feedback coming in. They have already said she has a bug in tracking making the pounce hard to dodge, this is being fixed in next big patch, it is ready but they can't submit it now. There is a live patch coming with fixes balance wise, wildcat rage and normal block recovery will be increased, cancels will cost more stamina, there will be damage tweaks to the pounce and some of the heavies, range of predator's mercy will be halved. They are targeting this for next week, emphasis on targeting. They think she is an interesting character, she has a complex and complete kit which was one of the goals. The issue at the moment is all of the moves currently are a little too good, she was supposed to be able to do near everything but not be the best at everything. They plan to go a little bit step by step, they don't want to break her, they don't want another valkyrie overnerf/rebuff, but they are listening and working on it.

Edit: probably live patch next week.

[Shawn2572013]

Thank you for the info. I'm hearing impaired and even though I watch every Warriors den, it's difficult to hear everything that's being said and I count on these recaps to get the fact. I wish you would have included the actual differences in Shaman. For instance, I heard one of her heavies will go from 25 to 20 dmg. But I know there was other damage adjustment and length of her pounce and what not. Is there any way you could please add that in.

Thank you

[vgrimr_J]

Copied from OP:

Shaman, they are looking at how she is performing and the feedback coming in. They have already said she has a bug in tracking making the pounce hard to dodge, this is being fixed in next big patch, it is ready but they can't submit it now. There is a live patch coming with fixes balance wise, wildcat rage and normal block recovery will be increased, cancels will cost more stamina, there will be damage tweaks to the pounce and some of the heavies, range of predator's mercy will be halved. They are targeting this for next week, emphasis on targeting. They think she is an interesting character, she has a complex and complete kit which was one of the goals. The issue at the moment is all of the moves currently are a little too good, she was supposed to be able to do near everything but not be the best at everything. They plan to go a little bit step by step, they don't want to break her, they don't want another valkyrie overnerf/rebuff, but they are listening and working on it.

Edit: probably live patch next week.

thats great

[CandleInTheDark]

Thank you for the info. I'm hearing impaired and even though I watch every Warriors den, it's difficult to hear everything that's being said and I count on these recaps to get the fact. I wish you would have included the actual differences in Shaman. For instance, I heard one of her heavies will go from 25 to 20 dmg. But I know there was other damage adjustment and length of her pounce and what not. Is there any way you could please add that in.

Thank you

I paused and wrote down everything blow by blow from the Den so I have the actual numbers, used the words Roman used. I didn't go with numbers earlier because it was noisy around me and Roman does talk quickly without considering his accent lol. I've edited the details into the top post but here they are.

Wildcat's rage hits and normal block recovery up to 800 ms from 700

Nerf to predator's hunger, predator's mercy, wildcat's rage cancel to combat idle costs 24 stamina up from 10

Wildcat's rage damage down to 20 from 25, wildcat's swiftness to 20 from 25, pounce to 20 from 25, basic opener heavy down to 27 from 33

Range of predator's hunger down to 1 metre from 2 metres.

These are all due in the next live update, should be next week, maybe before next Den which is why they are telling us now but no guarantee. Tracking on the pounce is due to be fixed in the next title update which is stuff they can't generally do in the live updates, that is usually around middle of the month.

[D-d0g56]

Pretty impressed with how quickly they're patching her. Tbh with what they mentioned it sounds like that would be enough bar a few tweeks.

[CandleInTheDark]

Pretty impressed with how quickly they're patching her. Tbh with what they mentioned it sounds like that would be enough bar a few tweeks.

Yeah they designed her far better than the centurion in that, other than the tracking, if there was going to be anything unbalanced with her it was likely to be in the numbers which means a fix that doesn't tank her in one mode or the other is easier to figure.