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[Knight_Raime]

I'm noticing a lack of Shaman weaknesses in your reply, Raime. They are not present in the linked post either.

I see the issue. I use weakness/counters interchangebly. So I apologize if I ever mentioned weakness specifically. My entire argument was that there are counters to her.
I appreciate that we got back on topic though. Thank you.

[SerSine]

Yes, She's OP
No, She's not OP

She could barely scratch you with bleed and then pounce on your meat, take away two HP bars and heal her self and receive full stamina again. Her jumping heavy hit has too much range and is faster than an orochi side light, her side spinning heavies are faster than the berserkers and is a heavy. So if she hits with you with it, at low HP it's an execution. Getting ganked by two of them it just like centurion all over again, you can literally not dodge the bash move at close quarters, it's a nightmare. she makes gank spanking impossible. And lol if you're getting ganked, she pins you down while her crazed friends hit you with a heavy just like shugoki, except you can actually see shugokis move coming in, unlike hers, her stance looks like the characters regular stance. If you say she's not OP then she's annoying. If you disagree then I'll see you in hell, causes really stupid, faster than anything heavies and un-dodgable attacks at a certain range. Ridiculous, and I know it's not me cause my reaction time is in the 50ms so I can react just fine.

[Alustar.exe]

I love the hyperbole, keep 'em coming!
I feel players should preface how long they have taken aside to practice against her before jumping to the conclusion that you all have. I think that could help the rest of us identify your problems better, since none of you are going to give factual examples, videos or hell, even just ask someone for advice/help.
No instead let's just call for nerfs before they even go live for the general player base. (Which let's not kid or ourselves. We all know that's a factor in this issue, not everyone has access to the new heroes so automatically they should be less effective so no one feels left out.)