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    The Bf-109G-6/U3 was a Bf-109G-6 ( and G-6Late) equipped with MW50 system which increased DB605's power by 300HPs and porvided stabilized power output at 20000 feets.
    Though a 1943 aircraft, Bf-109G-6 was the most massly produced and was in service until the end of war. So I suppose Bf-109G-6/U3s were widly used in 1944 and 1945.
    And another important Bf-109G, Bf-109G-14/AS, was a Bf-109G-14 with DB-605ASM engine. The G14/AS had greater number than G5/AS and G6/AS.
    Will these two aircrafts be avaliable in the next patch?

    [This message was edited by invun on Wed July 14 2004 at 07:41 AM.]
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    The Bf-109G-6/U3 was a Bf-109G-6 ( and G-6Late) equipped with MW50 system which increased DB605's power by 300HPs and porvided stabilized power output at 20000 feets.
    Though a 1943 aircraft, Bf-109G-6 was the most massly produced and was in service until the end of war. So I suppose Bf-109G-6/U3s were widly used in 1944 and 1945.
    And another important Bf-109G, Bf-109G-14/AS, was a Bf-109G-14 with DB-605ASM engine. The G14/AS had greater number than G5/AS and G6/AS.
    Will these two aircrafts be avaliable in the next patch?

    [This message was edited by invun on Wed July 14 2004 at 07:41 AM.]
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    The G-6/AS we currently have is actually a G-14/AS.
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    G-6/U3 were recce versions, G-6/U2 were either using GM-1 or MW-50, in the latter case it required modifications of the system. 200 mod kits were ordered in April 1944 for modification of the existing /U2 aircraft.
    The resulting aircraft being roughly equal to a G-14.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by invun:
    The Bf-109G-6/U3 was a Bf-109G-6 ( and G-6Late) equipped with MW50 system which increased DB605's power by 300HPs and porvided stabilized power output at 20000 feets.
    Though a 1943 aircraft, Bf-109G-6 was the most massly produced and was in service until the end of war. So I suppose Bf-109G-6/U3s were widly used in 1944 and 1945.
    And another important Bf-109G, Bf-109G-14/AS, was a Bf-109G-14 with DB-605ASM engine. The G14/AS had greater number than G5/AS and G6/AS.
    Will these two aircrafts be avaliable in the next patch?

    [This message was edited by invun on Wed July 14 2004 at 07:41 AM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Bf 109 G-14/AS with cowling type 90. A deeper oil cooler but the filler hatch still in the old place as well as the cold start device hatch on the opposite side, too



    Jagd
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    Other side profile - prior Bf 109G-14/AS post: (sorry for the large pics)

    Caption:

    Please note the small differences on rudder counter weights. On later aircraft the trim tab can be a bit wider



    Jagd
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by butch2k:
    G-6/U3 were recce versions, G-6/U2 were either using GM-1 or MW-50, in the latter case it required modifications of the system. 200 mod kits were ordered in April 1944 for modification of the existing /U2 aircraft.
    The resulting aircraft being roughly equal to a G-14.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    G-6/U3 was NOT recce version, the recce version was G-8.
    G-6/U3 was using MW-50, while G-6/U2 using GM-1.
    And G-6/U4 was equipped with MK108, which we already have
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    The 30 or so G-6/U3 produced were G-6 airframes modified to recce purposes the modification was later serialized which gave birth to the G-8 version. The aircraft ending up in various short range recce units zlong with a few G-4/U3.

    The G-6/U2 was originaly using GM-1, but following the lack of high altitude interception and the need for better mid-level perfomances the GM-1 systems were modified. The modification were made at reparation centers and did not result in a change of designation.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by butch2k:
    The 30 or so G-6/U3 produced were G-6 airframes modified to recce purposes the modification was later serialized which gave birth to the G-8 version. The aircraft ending up in various short range recce units zlong with a few G-4/U3.

    The G-6/U2 was originaly using GM-1, but following the lack of high altitude interception and the need for better mid-level perfomances the GM-1 systems were modified. The modification were made at reparation centers and did not result in a change of designation.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    There were at least 200 G-6/U3 but they were indeed produced and used as recce aircrafts. NAGr 2, 5, 11, 12, 14 were equipped with them. G-6/U3, like G-6/U2 were available from late autumn 1943.

    What I'm interested in is when the conversion to MW-50 happened. Did it happen in late '43 or early '44? Also I did not found yet a certain date for the initial availability of DB-605AM and DB-605AS equipped 109s.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Magister__Ludi:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by butch2k:
    The 30 or so G-6/U3 produced were G-6 airframes modified to recce purposes the modification was later serialized which gave birth to the G-8 version. The aircraft ending up in various short range recce units zlong with a few G-4/U3.

    The G-6/U2 was originaly using GM-1, but following the lack of high altitude interception and the need for better mid-level perfomances the GM-1 systems were modified. The modification were made at reparation centers and did not result in a change of designation.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    There were at least 200 G-6/U3 but they were indeed produced and used as recce aircrafts. NAGr 2, 5, 11, 12, 14 were equipped with them. G-6/U3, like G-6/U2 were available from late autumn 1943.

    What I'm interested in is when the conversion to MW-50 happened. Did it happen in late '43 or early '44? Also I did not found yet a certain date for the initial availability of DB-605AM and DB-605AS equipped 109s.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Magister,

    Butch2K said that production of Bf 109G-6/U2 (with original GM-1 apparatus) started at Erla in November 1943 & was sustained through & until August 1944.

    He also said that the order to modify most of those GM-1 equipped G-6s to MW-50 use was given in April 1944 and that 200 mod kits were ordered at that time. Convertion was carried out in advanced repair centers.

    Late production (after April 1944?) G-6/U2 were manufactured with the MW-50 light allow tank and apparatus directly at the factory.

    Additionally, (still according to Butch2K) early-mid 1944, 273 existing airframes (probably damaged aircraft returning to repair depot) were converted to G-6/AS/U2 standards, either with GM-1 or MW-50 once the convertion order to MW-50 was given in April 1944. Probably most if not all of the G-6/AS/U2 were converted eventually to MW-50, as only several of the pressurized G-5/AS/U2 were kept with GM-1 for very high altitude recce interception duties.


    Caption from diagram:

    Bf 109 G-6 modified from GM-1 to MW-50 power boost. Please note an extra hatch under the filler hatch between fuselage frames 3 and 4. The small bulge more under the MG 131 bulge is for the cockpit air compressor of the G-5 version; as is the small air intake on MG 131 bulge, too. A part of the air vent is for the generator cooling. These features are also very common in the unpressurized G-6s and G-14s.


    Jagd
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