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    I agree. The matchup is key. Conqueror is the Alpha Turtle and will 1 heavy hit you to death. Block, heavy. Block, heavy. But, in my mind, if you play the game the way it was meant to be played and actually attack people, I believe that his complete list of assets at his disposal make him one of the best in the game.(If not the best) Just so many things he can do. It all depends on the skill level of the player. And I couldn't agree more. He has no opener so if he plays a turtle then he is pretty much screwed. He too got screwed in the update. His "uninteruptible" is interuptible. I have had it stopped by a slew of players with either GB's or hits. But there are so many bugs in the last update, I stopped keeping track of everything that I have seen. It was a complete terd.
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    Originally Posted by subdude1974 Go to original post
    No misinformation here. I have had it blocked by several. Lawbringer, Raider and Shugoki. The Shugoki block is recorded. If I knew how to post it, I would. But yes, it isn't guaranteed anymore as I have had it blocked by several players. I have so many vids about screwed up things that go on with Centurion since the update I just stopped trying. Sent vids to Ubi but they don't seem to care that the update has completely screwed Centurion. I have even get guard broke between first and second light attacks while playing with him. That was don't by a Shugoki as well. But let me guess. Misinformation. Don't really care whether you believe or not, but Centurion has been completely screwed over and the character with no offense or HP has been the most punished player in the game.
    Just in my recent few games as Cent I've never had my light attack blocked after Legion Kick, so I don't know why it would be happening to you.

    As to the Shugo Guard breaking you in the middle of a light chain, that's not just Cent. He can do that to any hero due to his constant UI stance, unless you GB him or hit him twice. He will never be staggered by the first light thus allowing him to get a free GB. So no, it's not misinformation, but it is an intended mechanic that works against ALL heros, not just Cent.
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    Originally Posted by subdude1974 Go to original post
    I agree. The matchup is key. Conqueror is the Alpha Turtle and will 1 heavy hit you to death. Block, heavy. Block, heavy. But, in my mind, if you play the game the way it was meant to be played and actually attack people, I believe that his complete list of assets at his disposal make him one of the best in the game.(If not the best) Just so many things he can do. It all depends on the skill level of the player. And I couldn't agree more. He has no opener so if he plays a turtle then he is pretty much screwed. He too got screwed in the update. His "uninteruptible" is interuptible. I have had it stopped by a slew of players with either GB's or hits. But there are so many bugs in the last update, I stopped keeping track of everything that I have seen. It was a complete terd.
    is this guy a troll? kensei the best fighter? centurion no offensive capabilities? dafuq?
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    Um , yes.....

    centurions have no offense IF you dont suck at defense. his combos are meaningless to most as they are stopped as soon as he grabs you. so you get a possible 2 heavies, but probably only 1. legion kick gets you a light most of the time. he has DEFENSIVE punishes from parrying if near a wall. gbs against better players work very little. his only real offensive weapon is ET, but is only good part of the time. it doesnt stun heavies or other heroes during certain animations. most, if not all, end up dealing much more damage to cent than he does to them. if you have problems with cent offense either you suck at defense or you get baited easily. there are a couple characters if used against him and skill levels are equal, he has almost no chance at winning.

    as far as kensei is concerned, if you were to do away with parry and spam, it is almost certain. if he had an opener, he would be a definite. he has tons of options to use to keep people guessing. but as stated, if playing turtle, then he is screwed as he has no opener.
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    and also dont forget the punishment that he takes for missed ET or LK. cent doesnt last long against guaranteed heavies.
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    Originally Posted by Rolandcall Go to original post
    For people who play a noob stomping cheese class they think it's unfair when the lose. Almost all the hate messages I get are from centurions under the impression they should always win. I had one tell me lawbringer is 30 times as broken as centurion. Another messaged me saying all I do is counter guard break, apparently I should let him throw me around.
    Hahaha all natural ^^

    Who sucks that much to lose with centurion has all the reasons to be mad.
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    what?

    your statement makes no sense. are you saying centurion is best in the game? just trying to understand your meaning
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    Originally Posted by subdude1974 Go to original post
    his only real offensive weapon is ET


    Any character that can turn ET offensive is a bad hombre

    Humour aside, the Centurion has never been a strong character because of his offense. It's always been about his powerful punishes that come from playing him in a more defensive and calculated way. He's always been a noob stomper (much like the Valkyrie and Kensei and a few others) but once you figure him out an aggressive Centurion can be easily dismantled. It's when a good player uses him and starts turtling that the Centurion becomes the salt generating, cutscene inducing entity we all know and love/hate.

    He has arguably one of the most powerful punishes in the game and making a single mistake against a good Cent player still means you will almost always pay for it with half your life cutscened away. It's the way the Cent was designed from the ground up. His nerf was effective only in driving away the non-dedicated players that used him purely as a flavour of the month. In the hands of a good player the Cent has not lost much just reigned in a little, which feels fair enough considering what he can do.
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    which is exactly my point. he is forced to be a turtle but if you are not great at parries, then you have to 1 hit your opponent to death. with the weakest heavies in the game, the number of times you have to get in a heavy to kill somebody is a number that is at least double the double of heavies it takes to kill centurion. the lawbringer shove spam takes half his energy before he is able to get away usually. and as far as punishes go, if your opponent gets put the ground, his best attack isnt better than anybody else's in the game. hell, berserker will pretty much 100% a centurion if centurion gets knocked to the ground and there is nothing that can be done about it. he has no deflect, no uninteruptible, no hyper armor(even with lowest HP), not very mobile and if OOS, has the slowest recovery in the game. he is a blight to noobs for sure. but with his lack of offense, he is easily managed by better players. the only nerf that I agreed with was the wall spam. complete crap, as is any infinite combo. to me, the game has been butchered with supposed fixes but all they seemed to do was create more flaws. If I didn't play this with my son I wouldn't be playing it at all anymore.
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    Originally Posted by subdude1974 Go to original post
    which is exactly my point. he is forced to be a turtle but if you are not great at parries, then you have to 1 hit your opponent to death. with the weakest heavies in the game, the number of times you have to get in a heavy to kill somebody is a number that is at least double the double of heavies it takes to kill centurion. the lawbringer shove spam takes half his energy before he is able to get away usually. and as far as punishes go, if your opponent gets put the ground, his best attack isnt better than anybody else's in the game. hell, berserker will pretty much 100% a centurion if centurion gets knocked to the ground and there is nothing that can be done about it. he has no deflect, no uninteruptible, no hyper armor(even with lowest HP), not very mobile and if OOS, has the slowest recovery in the game. he is a blight to noobs for sure. but with his lack of offense, he is easily managed by better players. the only nerf that I agreed with was the wall spam. complete crap, as is any infinite combo. to me, the game has been butchered with supposed fixes but all they seemed to do was create more flaws. If I didn't play this with my son I wouldn't be playing it at all anymore.
    They fastest heavys in the game tho not the lowest health in the game lol thatso false deflect is a assassin mech to do with reflect I have beserker 180 I've never one spotted anyone I've killed a noob in two but they didn't realise how to block yet and he's not a defensive hero he's ment to mix up his attacks with feints and slowest recovery I don't thinks so that would be like Shug or a heavy unless you've put on gear and that has the lowest exhaustion recovery
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