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[Curently]

Well it's been a while now, and looking back on my old tier list I don't know what I was thinking with a lot of the heroes I placed, there was some bias with me being a Warden main but this new list I have made is due to playing against/with high tier players such as Setmyx, Pain0, Hmmmm1,ISkys and many rep 70+'s.

Taking into consideration 1v1's, 2v2's and 4v4's
Strongest to weakest in descending order.

Top Tier
Centurion
Gladiator
Raider Top Tier - Normally will win and will be the main heroes being used by good players in 1v1's and 4v4's.
Lawbringer
Warlord

Mid Tier
PK
Conquer Mid Tier - Can stand up to Top Tier example conquer hard counters centurion/anyone who relies on heavy mix ups, will see
Shinobi occasionally and will normally **** stomp anyone in low tier.
Beserker
Shinob
Beserker
Nubushi

Low Tier
Kensei Low Tier - Will Normally lose to anything above them unless they are a lot better then the opponent.
Shugoki (Warden is here because in high level play you will never get a SB to land and 99% of your zones will be blocked
Orochi resulting in a free GB, has no real way of opening up the opponent, and you can either roll out of SB or casually walk
Warden out of it when OOS. I'm being defensive because I know someone will say how OP warden is and how he should be in a
Highlander special tier above Top Tier)
Valkyrie

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In which universe raider and LB are better than warden and pk ?

Also.

You cannot mix all game mods into a one tier list. You simply can't.
In 4v4 90% of the classes have one cheesy move that can be spammed over and over to grant stunlocks and free damage.

In 1v1 unless you are one of these pro tournament raider doing nothing except the 50/50 unlock charge, you won't be so effective.

In 4v4 warlord and conqs are broken as ****, conqs wiith perks can block for 3 minutes helaing himslef. And warlord is the warlord.

Shinobi is a cancer too, sniping you from 30000 meters with free GB that hard stuns you for 5 seconds.

1v1 doesn't have a tier. Most of the time in these so called "high lvl duels" you won't see nothing except super safe attacks that cannot be easily punished spammed over and over and over.


Or pk playing super safe and turtling attacking only with occasional istant canceled zones.

Here what high lvl duels are all about.

Thats why nobody takes this game seriously, honestly if im in the competitive mood, i play tekken 7

[Lyskir]

In which universe raider and LB are better than warden and pk ?

Also.

You cannot mix all game mods into a one tier list. You simply can't.
In 4v4 90% of the classes have one cheesy move that can be spammed over and over to grant stunlocks and free damage.

In 1v1 unless you are one of these pro tournament raider doing nothing except the 50/50 unlock charge, you won't be so effective.

In 4v4 warlord and conqs are broken as ****, conqs wiith perks can block for 3 minutes helaing himslef. And warlord is the warlord.

Shinobi is a cancer too, sniping you from 30000 meters with free GB that hard stuns you for 5 seconds.

1v1 doesn't have a tier. Most of the time in these so called "high lvl duels" you won't see nothing except super safe attacks that cannot be easily punished spammed over and over and over.


Or pk playing super safe and turtling attacking only with occasional istant canceled zones.

Here what high lvl duels are all about.

Thats why nobody takes this game seriously, honestly if im in the competitive mood, i play tekken 7

pretty much this

[Curently]

1.Had a whole argument about to say, but a better one would be... You sound like an redditer as your complaining about a move that can only be used if he gets a light parry of if you whiff incredibly badly (talking about Shinobi).

2. But another thing is that there is no true stun locks now, what you actually mean is that you can't play against your opponent and give an example of a cheesy move and super safe moves, warlords headbutt? free GB on dodge. PK zone? More of a parrying problem but you should be keeping your guard to right if you can't react to it. Conq shield bash? Hes literally just a massive wall that has a massive skill ceiling on him to make him worthwhile offensively, but defensively yes he's a pain.

3.Raider is literally only top tier because he can have one of the highest OOS punishes/normal punishes in the game, with his normal being a free heavy, into a heavy zone guess to parry, if wrong your either taking that to the face or being hit by another top heavy/normal zone(which does 45 dmg).

[SoulEavens]

I just got to ask: You put Berserker into Mid Tier two Times, do you think he is so incredibly Medicore, that he warrants being there twice? XD
And Guys, he said this is HIS Personal Tier list.
I think Tier lists in General can be actually rather decieving. Certainly while some Characters are stronger than other, the Player will be the best with the Hero that suits his Personal playstyle the best. For example i personally am a Meanance as a Conqueror, since he is my Main, i am a halfway decent Berserker, and somewhat Acceptable Shinobi, but i can't play Shugoki to save my Life, even though i really like him.

So while Tiers DO play a Role, what matters more is, how the Player fits with particular Hero. As i said, i love the Conq (Gangsta) Life. There is nothing more satisfying then holding off the Entire enemy Team for Minutes until my Alies arrive. (IF i can pull that off of course, it's a lot harder than it looks, unless i am Fighing Newbies. In that case i am near Immortal.) Somtimes i think i can hear them from beyong their Screens. "DIE DIE! WHY DON'T YOU ********* DIE ALREADY!?". Actually,.... i might be an Evil person.

[RiceComboA]

warlords headbutt? free GB on dodge.

Are we playing the same game here? I don't remember being able to punish this move on a dodge. Please enlighten.

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Are we playing the same game here? I don't remember being able to punish this move on a dodge. Please enlighten.

He was punishable, the 1 week of his nerfed career. Now cannot be punished anymore, except maybe from a perfect timing dodge into GB by a raider.

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1.Had a whole argument about to say, but a better one would be... You sound like an redditer as your complaining about a move that can only be used if he gets a light parry of if you whiff incredibly badly (talking about Shinobi).

2. But another thing is that there is no true stun locks now, what you actually mean is that you can't play against your opponent and give an example of a cheesy move and super safe moves, warlords headbutt? free GB on dodge. PK zone? More of a parrying problem but you should be keeping your guard to right if you can't react to it. Conq shield bash? Hes literally just a massive wall that has a massive skill ceiling on him to make him worthwhile offensively, but defensively yes he's a pain.

3.Raider is literally only top tier because he can have one of the highest OOS punishes/normal punishes in the game, with his normal being a free heavy, into a heavy zone guess to parry, if wrong your either taking that to the face or being hit by another top heavy/normal zone(which does 45 dmg).

Raider stampede stunlocks you into his animation, shinoby ranged Gb stunlocks you into his animation, centurion stunlocks you into his anmation.

Stunlock = hard stun without having the chance to do nothing.

[Miefmatrose]

Warden wrecks most people in any mode and you don't even need a high rep on him.

So my list

High: Warden
Mid: Warden
Low: Everyone else

[Charmzzz]

In which universe raider and LB are better than warden and pk ?

Or pk playing super safe and turtling attacking only with occasional istant canceled zones.

Raider and LB are Top Tier in 4v4 for sure. Stampede / Impale are, together with Shinobi ranged GB and Cent charged heavy, by far the best ganking moves in the game. Add Shove-50-50 and stunning tap into mixup spam to this and there you go. Every good team contains a Nobushi for his teamfight and minion-clearing potential plus a Raider and a LB.

Warden can at least force a reaction from LB through SB, PK can't. LB can just stand there and put his guard to the right, then block into Shove 50-50 all day. LB gets a parry on a Light? Boom, 45 Damage. Same for Raider. Parry a heavy? Wall-splat available? Oh boy, you are pretty screwed now. Eat alot of stamina damage from Raider + free Light into UB Zone mixup or eat a Heavy into Shove into 50-50 mixup from LB. Raider can do this too. Every hero with constant guard and a good-reflex player can just turtle up and wait for his mates to arrive in 4v4 or wait for a parry into a heavy punish. Also, LB has 150 (or 145?) HP. Raider 140. PK 120, Warden 130.

I would place Raider and LB higher than PK, maybe not Warden since he has an UB move as well. In high level play it mostly comes down to forcing a reaction from the opponent so you can punish that, and PK cannot do this at all.