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    Rework or character move sets. (Nerf means nothing)

    Can we get a rather large update that reworks the entire move set?? For every character. And I am going to be rather blunt about this. The move sets are spammable in every respect, half of the list by the vast majority of players are ignored.. And they use but a single combo.. Maybe two. I played a game with a warden and because the shoulder bash has a timer (set by the player as long as they hold a button) it is hard to fight against. And by the time I recover with law bringer he is at it again...i can see my character begin the dodge animation.. And stopped just as he has started.. (he moves like an inch) And because he can feint this too.. he guardbreaks.. in such a unpredictable manner, and my question is: what do I do??? Because he can dodge back and recover stamina if need be... No bother for him.. And I am slow, as a law bringer.. The centurion nerf has failed to solve the original problem (character can still spam the same combo) the player base is where a lot of the problems lay; and I don't understand why it has taken so long to understand That. I played a warden after a few messages were exchanged with the player, needless to say he just laughed. The main problem is; vast majority of players don't care, they can adjust a combo to fit around them and there is no incentive to use anything else; but they can't adjust using the rest of the move set??

    THE MOVE SET encourages this play.. And the nerfs are appreciated, but like the centurion nerf.. it doesn't fix the original problem. The gameplay is boring and repetitive for the exact reasons as above.. And this game needs that change because if the player base uses a single combo.. or relies so heavily on a few moves.. And or guardbreaking.. then what is the point?? May as well limit the move set list to one combo.. a light and heavy attack button.. There are perfectly reasonable updates that can fix This even if the move sets were not reworked.. But still believe it is definitely one of the more important aspects of the game to change.

    THE biggest thing about the cent nerf. You increase stamina consumption for cent... But it still has to be reasonable from a playing perspective. You can't nerf the stamina where he can't get the combo off.. But again because of this you fail to fix the fundamental problem... And this is my reason for not only the move set rework.. But this would be for every character. We got this game, with so many combos and ways to implement them??? With genuinely no real implementation of any... by a lot of the players... yet we want nerfs that actually fix this problem that the player base causes. And it gets nowhere.. that is my thoughts on this.

    Bearing in mind that it is more of a question of if the player base wants to spend 10-20 minutes of their game learning the move set.. And applying it without unnecessary spam.. overall answer... is they don't.. And we sit and wait for a nerf that can't address that issue. Cheers.
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    Haven't you notice that there isn't anyone here who can answer you? They are only 2 forum moderators that only say in positive comments "on nice idea I'll talk to the dev team " or "oh nice good job" nothing more...for a AAA GAME SUPPORT SUCKS....
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    No I haven't realised that. But if I am honest the whole 'positive' threads do get the attention. May as well give up. Thanks though I was expecting some hate on this thread but what you say about the positive threads... yeah. Thanks though for slapping me in the face, the support does suck... who am I kidding with this thread 😂😂 good day to you sir!
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    It's honestly amazing For Honor has the shortest move list of any fighter I have seen yet it somehow has it's playerbase useing less that 1/5 of a characters list
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    Tyrjo's Avatar Senior Member
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    Do you realize how much work it is to rework every heroes move set? It's like a one year (if not more) project that may not even turn out great in the end. It's never going to happen. We will see continued rebalancing and that alone will be good enough.
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    Well.

    I played the game again after a lot of time off.

    I left when the season one heroes were wrecking faces.

    The game still has the same problems on xbox (or better - console in general). The light spam is still an issue because of the input and screen lags, combined with 30fps. This game can not be taken seriously in any way.

    The new heroes movesets are awful, because they have spammable unbockables. This indicates, that the core issue is not resolved yet and might never be. Look at the gladiators moveset. Several light chains and half of the moves are inblockable. The vanilla heroes who have unblockables, have to achieve something in order to hit with them or the unblockables are slow and avoidable.
    Season one and two heroes are obviously tailored to PC settings and playstyles.

    This game still needs an overhaul - not only the movesets.
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    We have some similar changes coming for some of the original cast, but it's not a thing that will happen for every single character. Balancing is one thing, but reworks are a whole different beast. With that said, we still have a lot of changes coming to the game overall and not just specific characters. As we move into the next season, we'll be able to share more about these changes.
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    Give Nobushi kick tracking and hyper armor like Shinobi kit and I'll forgive about 25% of the things gone wrong. >:3
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    Originally Posted by Fairemont Go to original post
    Give Nobushi kick tracking and hyper armor like Shinobi kit and I'll forgive about 25% of the things gone wrong. >:3
    And then nerf her bleed/way of the shark.
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    Originally Posted by FredEx919 Go to original post
    We have some similar changes coming for some of the original cast, but it's not a thing that will happen for every single character. Balancing is one thing, but reworks are a whole different beast. With that said, we still have a lot of changes coming to the game overall and not just specific characters. As we move into the next season, we'll be able to share more about these changes.
    Can you ppl promise that we have dedicated servers till the mid end of season 4? Or even in the end of season4 and don't do nothing else don't bother with cosmetics and move sets. Game is unfair as it is the popular mode dominion is became a mini zerg game so don't bother just do the servers.
    P.s. change the war faction too of you want ppl to care and make it interesting..
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