I just played a game in brawl. And I couldn't believe the two turtling players I just had.. now granted one was a shugoki. And the other a lawbringer. Headbutt here there and everywhere.. And grabs pretty constant. As a Berserker.. I couldn't do anything because it got to the point where his parries were just on time every time.. And the fights were so long and drawn out like nearing a draw.. I'd rather just die and call it a day.. And I am not over reacting either when I say the parries are timed perfectly.. very few hits I got in.. Like not even enough to take half health.. I would either have to trade damage.. which only goes so far.. And most likely destroys me.. feint.. And again even feinting was not worth it. Because I would get constantly grabbed before I even realised or react to the grab attempt. I don't mind a drawn out fight.. what I hate is the over reliance player a have over grab.. they'd stick a combo.. then grab.. law bringer hit shove into a hit.. And shove again.. grab.... I mean I watched a grab fight for the entire match grab.. counter.. grab.. counter.. And this went on for a total of like 3+ minutes.. I use grab when the opportunity presents itself.. often like one grab maybe 2 a fight.. And that is pushing it for me.. because I utilise so many other flaws made by a player. And I switch up my play when I need to to take advantage of the flaws I see in a fight.. (attacking to early.. not have enough reach on attack) even ledging I don't even require because I can usually dessimate players.. but I can't play against a player that turtles so much.. because the flaws don't show.. because they aren't doing anything.. And I often struggle to just sit there and wait for a grab... to counter it. Because I know at some point it is coming.. And I believe that the over reliance at the moment of grab is becoming such a big issue, I'd rather not sit and try and counter like 10 grab attempts a fight.. And I wish I was overstating that number.. but I am not 😂. I don't mind getting outplayed, I just can't sit there and counter constant grabs all the time. I'd rather not play; it is just that rediculous and boring.. And I probably wouldn't if I had not spent the £30 on this game. I would want a cool down on the grab button. Because I think the player base can adjust their play style a lot better and a lot more emphasise would be elsewhere on the move set. Rather than have genuinely boring play and a grab fight.