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    As AnthonyA85 has correctly stated it is about configurations. Any game that runs on 1 xbox one will run on every xbox one. The same with Ps4's

    but the slightly longer answer about pc's (which is probably wrong)

    When the games are made for pc's they are optimised so they can run at a certain standard. The better the games is optimised (AND the less demanding the game is) means it will run that standard on a less expensive pc. (which is good because more people can buy it without having to buy new parts for their pc)

    PC's slightly below the minimum specifications can still play the games but they will have to compromise... they might find parts of the game are laggy or they have to lower their resolution to 720p. So they are not getting the "standard" that the minimum spec requires to meet. The standard can be 30 fps or upwards and is usually 1080p

    Nvidia and AMD always try to optimise their drivers so the graphics cards can get a few more frames per second.

    PC owners then have to balance performance against quality. So if they like a lot of frames per second they might lower some of the graphics a little. I play in 2k resolution as I prefer sharper images and games like ac do not need a lot of FPS.

    A lot of pc owners think every game should be able to have the most demanding settings and the highest quality graphics while playing on a 5 year old pc... it's a shame that is not true... but Nvidia wouldn't sell many $1200 graphics cards if the same image could be achieved with a $120 graphics card

    Games are getting huge, more detailed and more demanding and gamers are always asking for more, bigger and better games... so obviously they need newer consoles being released in shorter spaces of time and pc owners have to upgrade components from time to time to keep up with the components needed to play at the standard (spec)

    So when Origins shows minimum specs like these, pc owners are very very happy because millions of people do not need to upgrade to play at a very good standard
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    Tbh I've never had a problem with SLI, its always been an improvement on performance with it enabled.

    That would be a shame if it is phased out though and a kick in the teeth to SLI owners. Spent a lot of money on my SLI system.

    Here's hoping running on a single 980m and I7 6700 runs this okay

    Thanks for the replay though.
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    It's true. Sli is a real pain. Nvidia takes 6 months to get drivers optimised and fixed for sli and most game forums always tell players with sli problems the best fix is to disable 1 card. Unfortunately for all the benefits SLI gives us, the problems and the wait to be able to finally use them in a game.... just are not worth it. Many years ago it was a good way to get FPS but nowadays a single more powerful gpu is always better.

    But I suppose if you like MMO games there is an advantage in waiting a few months until SLI support is available from nvidia and then the sli unlocks a lot more fps and you will get a big boost. but in single player games (especially games like AC where they do not need any more than 30 to 40 fps) SLI is probably more powerful than it needs, unless you are playing ultra at 4k.

    Laptops are never officially supported but a single 980m and a 6th gen cpu is more than enough for Origins and more than enough for most games. It's a powerful laptop
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    Well said.

    I am one of those people still using 5 year old components in my desktop, a XFX 7950, it’s below the minimum spec for origins, but i’ve Got a Q6700K and 32GB or ram to take the edge off. And since i’ll Be able to lock the frame rate at 30 (which I will probably do), i won’t have to worry too much. I checked systemreqslab.com but honestly, i don’t think that site is too reliable, it said my system was ok for most areas, except the gpu, but physically, the card ticks all the boxes, it was just the drivers that needed updating (which they did, lol, so i did it), but even after updating the drivers, the website still said my drivers were 6 months out of date so...not sure how reliable that website is.

    So basically, if you are on PC and you have a gpu from the last 3 to 5 years, and can run most recent games pretty well, you should be good for origins.
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    systemreqslab.com seems to lean towards manufacturers rather than gamers but they are probably basing their views on what they have been told. YT is always full of pc owners playing games on pc's with much lower spec than required. Also games can err on the side of caution. Shadow of mordor stated 4gb of vram was the absolute minimum needed for ultra textures... and pc owners quickly proved that 2gb graphics cards ran the ultra texture pack easily.

    The Q6700K is almost legendary for it's ability to overclock and the xfx 7950 is similar to a gtx 670 which is very close to the 760 (so your gpu is around the recommended spec and is definitely above minimum spec so I would not pay too much attention to systemreqslab.com.

    In fact I think the xfx 7950 beats its nvidia rivals even more when it plays at higher resolution
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    So when Origins shows minimum specs like these, pc owners are very very happy because millions of people do not need to upgrade to play at a very good standard
    I totally agree and that exactly explain many PC users condition. And I'm still happy because of AC:O specs
    And one of the reason why PC , simply Habit.
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    Thanks very much
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    Originally Posted by strigoi1958 Go to original post
    The Q6700K is almost legendary for it's ability to overclock and the xfx 7950 is similar to a gtx 670 which is very close to the 760 (so your gpu is around the recommended spec and is definitely above minimum spec so I would not pay too much attention to systemreqslab.com.

    In fact I think the xfx 7950 beats its nvidia rivals even more when it plays at higher resolution
    Huh, did not know that about the 7950, i got it back in 2012, thank god they've developed the PC version sepperately this time round, hopefully they do that in the future. I never overclock my system, always afraid of screwing something up, even though i built this thing (with some help), i usually just let the system do the OCing, when it feels it needs to, and it rarely does :P
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    Yeah not into MMO games to be fair, i'm a massive creed fan, have played all previous titles on ultra and what-not.

    i suppose sometimes SLI can cause scaling issues. Guess I've been lucky with it so far.

    Think my next upgrade will be a desktop with a dedicated single GPU. cough 1080 ti

    Thanks for the reply, just had a look on can i run it, and my machine meets the recommended 1080 ultra (i hope).
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    sorry bud but to be honest, SLI is not what it used to be, 8 years ago, SLI was great especially 2-way, it used to double my frame rate and 99% utilization across both GPUs, since 700 series, SLI started to go down, i could see utilization going under 80%, and last try with SLI was 980 Ti, guess what, both GPUs utilization drop to 40%, which means im getting 20% less than a single card, it doesnt matter which game but most are not working properly with SLI, AC:Syndicate worked gr8 though, so i had it with SLI, sold both and got 1080 Ti, never been happier.

    Nvidia doesn't really care about SLI, and its obvious now, DX12 and Vulkan have native support for multiple GPUs and i believe this is the future, but unfortunately game developers need to support multi-GPUs in DX12/Vulkan similar to ashes of the singularity otherwise it wont work, maybe in future we will have fully native support with minimal amount of effort from devs.
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