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    Press X aka Counter Guard Break - ruins the competitive part of the game for me

    Well since a couple of patches it has gotten ridiculous. I can't get a feeling for the cgb mechanic anymore. Even if I'm pretty perfect against a bot it nearly never works in multiplayer. On top of that some players seem to have gotten to a level to absolutely nail CGB every time which makes me lose nearly every duel (even suspected them cheating). And I never experienced that in a fight a couple of patches ago. And yes there already were good players around at that time.

    So for me the competitive main meat is basically if a player has the feeling to press X at the right time or not. This is pretty frustraiting, ridiculous and ruins the game for me.

    There's no real tutorial that tells you when to press the GB-button while in a fight or when you get snatched by a Cent, PK and so on.

    Really, if you want to give players a real chance and not just those who get it right by intuition, add a tutorial the really trains you.
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  2. #2
    Yes, big problem for me too.
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  3. #3
    It may help to know that you'll be able to reconfigure button assignments soon. I'm hoping to make GB right stick press. Moving off the thumb stick to press X takes too much time, and you can't change guards.
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  4. #4
    Originally Posted by RoosterIlluzion Go to original post
    I'm hoping to make GB right stick press. Moving off the thumb stick to press X takes too much time, and you can't change guards.
    On the other hand, GB from dash is going to be a problem... Pressing A then lifting over the stick and pressing it... Not quick when reaction is calculated in milliseconds.

    I use toggle lock, so I can't wait til I can assign GB to L2 and target lock to X.
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    Nothing has changed, It's literally a matter of practice. I remember when I started playing those gbs used to make me lose lots of duels. really frustrating. but with the time you get used to the timings until you reach a point it become as easy as blocking.
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    It's very easy really. You just press X as the oppenents hand/weapon makes contact with you to counter it. Do it a fraction of a second earlier in online games to account for slight lag.

    Also, have you learned the scenarios in which guard break CAN'T be countered?

    I.E.:

    - If you were parried.
    - If you are guard broken mid dodge.
    - If you were guard broken during your heavy attack startup.
    - If you miss. your attack.
    - If conqueror blocks your heavy attack (I think it's only Conq, can't confirm).

    In these instances it is IMPOSSIBLE to counter guard break. There may be a few more instances, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

    Also, yes it really sucks that the tutorial is so vague but I hope this helps someone!
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    I think you just need to get used to it. Its a bit tougher at times but each characters gb feels a bit different, such as the ranged GB from the shinobi. I usually hit this early when other gb would usually work. just keep practicing them with each class. i think the new bot feature coming out soon will be very helpful, basically u can have the bot do what u want him to do and just practice your timings over and over.
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    Originally Posted by Paladin_Evans Go to original post
    Also, have you learned the scenarios in which guard break CAN'T be countered?

    I.E.:

    - If you were parried.
    - If you are guard broken mid dodge.
    - If you were guard broken during your heavy attack startup.
    - If you miss. your attack.
    - If conqueror blocks your heavy attack (I think it's only Conq, can't confirm).

    In these instances it is IMPOSSIBLE to counter guard break. There may be a few more instances, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.!
    This list right here is why I hate GB. The tutorial couldn't be bothered to have a popup saying GB is guaranteed under certain instances, and it's going to take me ages
    to unlearn all the bad habits I've got that essentially mean I'm eating every GB that connects.
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  9. #9
    They made it hard as hell to do in the beginning of the game and it made it so that every gaurdbreak was assured, NOBODY LIKED IT THAT WAY
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