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    The Truth is out there.

    Dear Ubisoft Developers,

    The following 3 Issues have been recorded to you. Countless Times. And long ago. According to our Community Guys these Issues "have been passed to the Development Team".

    So, if they didn't lie to us, you have thought about that Things for sure. I mean, you had lots of Time. Of course you have Answers.

    So here we go:

    1. Vehicle Explosions/Kills no longer grant XP. Bug or intended?

    2. Vehicles DMG a day Armour completely broken. Bug or intended?

    3. Sniper Rifle/DMR DMG completely unrealistic. The Mk14 deals less DMG than the M4 in Tier Mode. Additionally several Weapons still not listed in the GRN Stats.
    Bug? Intended?


    Please don't try to tell us you are still investigating this. Or you are surprised to hear that. Just give us some clear Answers. That'd be some noble Gesture.


    Greetings.
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    "The M4 does more damage than the MK14"?? Since when? It doesn't in game. I use it. My main char uses the MK14 (Maxed out pre-T1, extreme). My new char (just finished Story T1/extreme) uses MK17. Both outgun the M4 (as it should be). The M4 is about accuracy. T1 you need penetration.
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    Originally Posted by Paladinrja Go to original post
    "The M4 does more damage than the MK14"?? Since when? It doesn't in game. I use it. My main char uses the MK14 (Maxed out pre-T1, extreme). My new char (just finished Story T1/extreme) uses MK17. Both outgun the M4 (as it should be). The M4 is about accuracy. T1 you need penetration.
    are you on crack? The mk14 deals less damage per bullet than any assault rifle


    @Ubi
    Cool youre deleting my posts without answering the actual OP. Censoring instead of adressing concerns will for sure help
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    Originally Posted by Paladinrja Go to original post
    "The M4 does more damage than the MK14"?? Since when? It doesn't in game. I use it. My main char uses the MK14 (Maxed out pre-T1, extreme). My new char (just finished Story T1/extreme) uses MK17. Both outgun the M4 (as it should be). The M4 is about accuracy. T1 you need penetration.
    In Tier Mode, fully upgraded to 30, the Mk14 does less DMG than the M4. Both stats wise and tested on an engaged Heavy. Additionally you can look at Qwurdis Sheet.

    Edit: I used the M4 from the Beginning of the Game to T1. With the right Setup I never needed a HighPen AR.
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    I haven't got either fully upgraded to 30. So you guys are saying the M4 jumps the dmg table *THAT MUCH*?.. Clearly it's a bug then. Either that or the MK14 dmg increase per upgrade is bugged (too small).
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    Originally Posted by Paladinrja Go to original post
    I haven't got either fully upgraded to 30. So you guys are saying the M4 jumps the dmg table *THAT MUCH*?.. Clearly it's a bug then. Either that or the MK14 dmg increase per upgrade is bugged (too small).
    Its the latter. While the M4 is definately toptier in terms of dps for assault rifles (dont trust the bars displayed ingame, the m4 deals massive damage per bullet), Assault rifles are pretty well balanced (mainly due to crit mechanic). Its the sniper rifles that are bugged in tiermode. They gain less damage per level. This results in the mk14 and g28 beeing worse than any Assault rifle, even a long barrelled mk14 deals less damage than a standart barreled m4. Ouch!
    I made a in depth post about the exact stats here, you might find it interesting: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...he-best-weapon
    What really grinds my gears is that i posted that weeks ago, but open a editor and adjusting some numbers is apparently too much work when youre busy polishing pvp
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    Originally Posted by Qwurdi Go to original post
    Its the latter. While the M4 is definately toptier in terms of dps for assault rifles (dont trust the bars displayed ingame, the m4 deals massive damage per bullet), Assault rifles are pretty well balanced (mainly due to crit mechanic). Its the sniper rifles that are bugged in tiermode. They gain less damage per level. This results in the mk14 and g28 beeing worse than any Assault rifle, even a long barrelled mk14 deals less damage than a standart barreled m4. Ouch!
    I made a in depth post about the exact stats here, you might find it interesting: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...he-best-weapon
    What really grinds my gears is that i posted that weeks ago, but open a editor and adjusting some numbers is apparently too much work when youre busy polishing pvp
    Ok, well that's interesting. I kinda thought the bars in the game were iffy, but nevertheless. I've been using the MK14 with my first char since the week the game released. No problems yet. I tend to swap out guns according to the situation but the MK14 is the best all rounder in the game for my play style. I tend to use the gun, not the other way round.
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    Originally Posted by Paladinrja Go to original post
    the MK14 is the best all rounder in the game for my play style.
    Chances are that you havent been really testing and just settled for what worked for you in the first place. But trust me, there are way better options. I have the mk14 still listed as my most used weapon and i used to love it, but i moved on and havent looked back since. Its just too much of a hassle to kill alerted enemies (like in the latest task force challenge, Madre coca mission) There are just so much better options performance wise, but each to their own
    I still think this is a issue thats needs to be adressed soon since it highly drains immersion for me that 223 weapons deal more damage than 308
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    Originally Posted by Qwurdi Go to original post
    Chances are that you havent been really testing and just settled for what worked for you in the first place. But trust me, there are way better options. I have the mk14 still listed as my most used weapon and i used to love it, but i moved on and havent looked back since. Its just too much of a hassle to kill alerted enemies (like in the latest task force challenge, Madre coca mission) There are just so much better options performance wise, but each to their own
    I still think this is a issue thats needs to be adressed soon since it highly drains immersion for me that 223 weapons deal more damage than 308
    I killed Madre Coca 250x with it. I actually wrote a post about how to do it very easily, just yesterday:
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...llenge-Easy-T1
    Try it out. You don't actually have to go back to Charlie, just head in that direction at least 1Km away, restart the mission.
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    1. Vehicle destruction not granting XP in Tier One is a bug.
    2. I'm sorry, I couldn't quite understand what you meant here (but feel free to clarify).
    3. Weapons missing from the leaderboards is a bug. To my knowledge, sniper rifle damage and damage differences between the weapons you mentioned aren't considered bugs, but we're open to your feedback on this.

    Even if you prefer we don't, I should mention that the team is investigating the issues I referred to as bugs (just to avoid any confusion).
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