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[OfTheStone]

Since they announced the upcoming nerf to full block stance, it means serious trouble for Conq. If this change goes through, he is going to be made totally obsolete. Full block stance is the only tool the Conq has against character who spam fast attacks. (PK, Zerk, Orochi, Nobushi) Please Ubisoft, by all means, make full block stance a free GB on Warlord and Valk, but let it stay as is with Conq. He's supposed to be a defensive character anyway so being punished for being defensive makes no sense. You will actually kill the Conq if this change goes through. It will also make full block stance useless because no one will want to use it. Please devs, THINK! You need to understand what you're hurting here.

[S0Mi_xD]

Unless you are constantly using it, it won't make nearly any difference.

[SplugeKing]

He gets a free GB from blocking opponent heavy, just saying

[UbiNoty]

I'll make note of your feedback on the full block stance changes and its potential impact on conqueror to the team.

[OfTheStone]

Why does him getting a free GB on heavy block matter here? It has nothing to do with this change. I'm confused by what you're trying to get at.

[OfTheStone]

Also, in case you didn't already know, Conq has a recovery time after he gets hit before he can use full block stance, so he can't just use it as a panic button. AND if you catch Conq the moment he tries to use full block stance, it's already a guaranteed free GB. So tell me, why should that ability on Conq be nerfed any further?

[kweassa1]

Also, in case you didn't already know, Conq has a recovery time after he gets hit before he can use full block stance, so he can't just use it as a panic button. AND if you catch Conq the moment he tries to use full block stance, it's already a guaranteed free GB. So tell me, why should that ability on Conq be nerfed any further?

Try using a class without any unblockables against a conq, and you'll know why.

See what I mean by "people playing only one class have extreme tunnel vision and don't understand what 'balance' means"?

Balance is something that runs both ways. You only have half the picture on the game. Play something else and get cured of your bias, dude. I recommended this like what, 2? 3 months ago?

[Charmzzz]

Try using a class without any unblockables against a conq, and you'll know why.

See what I mean by "people playing only one class have extreme tunnel vision and don't understand what 'balance' means"?

Balance is something that runs both ways. You only have half the picture on the game. Play something else and get cured of your bias, dude. I recommended this like what, 2? 3 months ago?

Absolutely this. I am a PK Main, but I played Warden alot too. So I know how easy it is to open up a Turtle (and Conqs excel in that with Heal on Block, superior block and free GB on blocked Heavy) as a Warden and how hard it is as a PK.
Conq is not a good Duel Character. He never will be. You get that OfTheStone? Conq is a Heavy. He is designed to defend a Control Point on Dominion. And he can do that pretty good, better than alot of other Chars.

Yes, he has flaws, but having an unpunishable (for all heroes without an UB) stance is not healthy for the game. We want to get away from safe moves and defensive playstyle, so in my opinion it is a good thing to give Full-Block-stance at least some drawback.

[Sipius]

Absolutely this. I am a PK Main, but I played Warden alot too. So I know how easy it is to open up a Turtle (and Conqs excel in that with Heal on Block, superior block and free GB on blocked Heavy) as a Warden and how hard it is as a PK.
Conq is not a good Duel Character. He never will be. You get that OfTheStone? Conq is a Heavy. He is designed to defend a Control Point on Dominion. And he can do that pretty good, better than alot of other Chars.

Yes, he has flaws, but having an unpunishable (for all heroes without an UB) stance is not healthy for the game. We want to get away from safe moves and defensive playstyle, so in my opinion it is a good thing to give Full-Block-stance at least some drawback.

Define unpunishable stance...

[Charmzzz]

Define unpunishable stance...

Go into Full-Block-Stance vs any Character that does not have an UB move from neutral. What can they do? Watch your Stamina go down pretty slowly? Throw a GB that gets CGBed 99% of the time? Feint a heavy? Perfect example of defensive meta...