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Ok something I want to talk about is the tiers that are in for honor, in my mind there are 3 low tier, mid tier and top tier. However there is also a tier that is below low tier, this is the tier i call unplayable and this is the tier were u cannot win at all with these heroes. The heroes go as of this(From top to bottom)
Top Tier
Centurion
Gladiator
Raider
Warlord
Mid Tier
Orochi
Shinobi
Beserker
Nubushi
Shugoki
Peacekeeper
Highlander
Low Tier
Warden
Lawbringer
Valkyrie
Unplayable Tier
Kensei
Conqueror
With this many will probably go and ask why warden is in low tier, the answer is actually quite simple and that is everyone above him can easily beat him if the player behind them can somewhat parry and can dodge as there is a specific timing that will always make it so that u dodge the wardens shoulder bash, and considering all he has is a top light and a zone *that gives a free GB on a BLOCK* I do think he belongs in the low tier no matter how much people play him. Another one might be PK with her light spam, but being honest the moment u learn to parry she cannot do anything as i can now consistently parry her lights and occasionally the zones.
But now lets talk about the big four, and I think I will go from the bottom of the top tier, which is Warlord. He has been top tier for a while now with his massive hp great damage, longest throw in the game, hyper armor on a lot of his attacks and a great headbutt that will catch a lot off guard. Some say that that he cannot get guard breaks after they introduce the change, which I say no, he can middle mouse button(for me on PC) to attack the enemy with a shield lowering their stamina and getting a guaranteed heavy. For his great defenses great punishes and being great all around with mobility. He is a better in duels then 4v4 but is still amazing in both thus this is the reason he has been an infamous character for a while.
Now we go to Raider, and where to begin he has some of the best 50/50's in the game, good hp great mix ups, and the strongest punishes for going to the floor, he will be gutted a bit with the no longer guaranteed GB's and heavies but still as we all know with a single light he can go into his zone 50/50 which does massive damage. Also for having one of the most powerful charges with it being able to diminish most peoples stamina in 1 go and do equivalent damage to a lot of peoples heavies.
Now lets talk about the new kid on the block Gladiator, and my,my he is very strong. Lets start with what makes him so strong, he has one of the best zones in the game with it doing 1 bar of damage and it being guaranteed if the opponent gets hit with the unblock able , but even if they miss they can cancel it. He has many unblock able attacks and many of them drain at your stamina, also he has decent hp. He is basically the rivaling contender for Centurion with both being amazing in duels and even better in 4v4's
as he will bully you out of your stamina resulting in a trident 50/50, this is also helped with how he has light attacks that the PK would be jealous of.
And finally the strongest hero in the game, Centurion, and where to begin on this one. Lets start with reasons why people believe he shouldn't be nerved, he has below average hp, he is very mix up heavy so if the opponent doesn't fall for his feints you will fine. Which I call complete BS on, he has literally the strongest light parry punish in the game with it being able to cut down most peoples hp in half, the same goes for the punish for you being thrown into a wall. He has a kick that is not very punishable and is godlike in 4v4's. He drains your stamina like a vampire draining your blood, and he has the same thing going for him like warlord where even after the no guaranteed GB's and heavies he has a move where on parry he can drain even more of your stamina and hit u with a heavy. He has simply so much versatility and so much damage. He is the best sides of gladiator with some damage buffs. He also has a lot of unblock able attacks which not only make it annoying in 1v1's but extremely frustrating in 4v4's
Nerfs
Suggestions that i have for nerfs is for the following
Warlord - Takeaway some of the hyper armor on his attacks he can have it on some but not most of his heavies, his headbutt should also be more punishable with dodging it being able to give you a free GB. And if nerf the amount of stamina drained from his parry counter thingy...
Raider - Make him have weaker punishment, as he he can do massive damage most of the time it being around 3 bars of damage, which is not OK for a vanguard. Also his forward throw should not drain your stamina to the point where most of the time you will be out of it, and he gets a guaranteed light with the knee to the face which can kill everyone who is on that last bar of life.
Gladiator - Make his attacks have higher stamina costs as I am having flashbacks of the cost of the original Shoulder bash costs. Another thing that could happen is to make it so his zone is not cancelled making it more risky and you should only use it at specific times instead of being something that cannot be punished, so this would mean if u dodge u should be able to get a parry.
Centurion - His full charged heavy should not give him a guaranteed full charge punch this is because this results in massive unfair damage, this is the same to his throw into wall punish as he will heavily drain your stamina throw you and punch you, whilst doing massive damage and you having near to no stamina by the end of it, so I would also nerf the amount of stamina he takes especially with the changes that are going to happen in the near future with the new changes happening when you are out of stamina. This would also be the same with warlord to nerf the amount of stamina he takes with his parry counter that will give him a guaranteed heavy.
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