Loadouts, RPM, CHC, CHD etc etc disaster | Forums

[nairda2k9]

They guys working on the masks probably don't have knowledge on how to fix the RPM bug.

Not every employee who works on the division knows everything about making games.

An audio engineer probably can't program AI for example
Similarly, the people working on the masks probably can't fix the RPM bug.

I think you are right and this is a big part of it. Much of this is speculation because we get zero transparency from Massive, but this is my take on things.

When loadouts were rolled up we ended up with quite a few bugs (many that had previously been 'fixed') getting reintroduced. This lead to the suggestion that loadouts had originally been planned for general release at beta but got held back for some reason. Massive had stalled on the issue of introducing loadouts for some time and then out of the blue they were suddenly available. The conclusion reached was that 'old' code with the basic loadout architecture already on it was used to accelerate introduction of this feature but it brought back unfixed bugs that had been rectified in subsequent code.

I think it has now been confirmed that the RPM loadout stacking glitch is NOT 1.7 specific and has been around since 1.6. My guess is Massive knew but had no way to rectify it without completely rewriting the loadout architecture onto a new patch and so let it slide as its use was limited. That makes me pretty angry when people were complaining about unusual experiences in the DZ but it is what it is. Since then of course the glitch has been exposed and whilst I actually commend those that exposed it (better the devil you know in my opinion) it has lead to widespread, almost universal use.

They supposedly have a patch ready now awaiting certification with Sony and Microsoft which is why there is a delay.

[UbiInsulin]

Seriously, i love the game but I can't imagine why is this bug not fixed and there is no information when it will be fixed....

Massive/Ubi, do you have an ETA for this one? I am not playing before it is fixed, bunch of losers roaming and feeling great by one shoting or melting people...

I can't provide a date at this time, but a fix is in the works. From our SotG show notes:

We do have a fix for the RPM glitch, and the patch is awaiting deployment. If players do exploit this glitch, action will be taken against them.

A final patch will be implemented before Update 1.8 launches.

[SmugBrute]

2977 hrs on this game. Played every patch. Even god awful one shot shotgun crap. Played through it. This rpm/mod glitch has totally killed game. Goodbye division. Hello destiny!

Seriously, i love the game but I can't imagine why is this bug not fixed and there is no information when it will be fixed....

Yes, they are issues with auto-aim shotgunners and cronus users on console, yes, only viable weapon is m4 or mp5 or shotgun with cronus but this all pales in not being able to fix loadouts bug.

Massive/Ubi, do you have an ETA for this one? I am not playing before it is fixed, bunch of losers roaming and feeling great by one shoting or melting people...

[III_Hammer_III]

I can't provide a date at this time, but a fix is in the works. From our SotG show notes:
We do have a fix for the RPM glitch, and the patch is awaiting deployment. If players do exploit this glitch, action will be taken against them.

And how would you know who to take action against?

[Babou..]

I've spent a good 12 hours in the DZ over the weekend, didnt come across a single rogue, let alone anyone exploiting anything.

You were just lucky!
I also had moments like that when I was in DZ and it was like I was the only player in there.
But I also had times I was in a DZ that was better called Cheat Zone! Full of cheaters and exploiters.
Like I said, you were lucky to be in that session.

[demon2blade]

And how would you know who to take action against?

Don't they require video evidence of hackers on pc? if they require that for hackers doing some right old shady stuff then I don't think they can tell who's doing what from their own side Imo .

[Ubi-Johan]

Don't they require video evidence of hackers on pc? if they require that for hackers doing some right old shady stuff then I don't think they can tell who's doing what from their own side Imo .

Video evidence is required as a part of a report for multiple reasons; including avoiding false reports, being able to process them in a timely manner and also to identify any potential new cheats that we haven't seen before.

It is however not our primary anti-cheat system, we have back-end tools for that purpose.

[III_Hammer_III]

Video evidence is required as a part of a report for multiple reasons; including avoiding false reports, being able to process them in a timely manner and also to identify any potential new cheats that we haven't seen before.

It is however not our primary anti-cheat system, we have back-end tools for that purpose.

Out of curiosity, if you have back end tools, why would you require video evidence as part of the report? I'd think a player's handle will suffice to verify whether said player has cheated or not.

[Thr3e2wenty8]

Who are all these people who are aware of what is going on in the DZ yet still go in to look for a fight - then complain that every time they go in they get their asses handed to them by cheaters?

Its only going to frustrate you to where you too are going to use these ******** tactics and leave yourselves open to any bans Massive and crew do actually handout. Stay the **** out of the ******** DZ and PVP.

Let the assclowns chase their tails like they did when they were given access to the PTS and all they did was take advantage of untuned new things and just kept using them the whole time.

[Kongo Otto]

It is however not our primary anti-cheat system, we have back-end tools for that purpose.

I'll take "utter bollocks" for 250, Alex.