and not just throwing money away if there is nothing left in the pool of items.?
Let me start off by saying i like to buy vanity items. Dont care for others opinions on it. Its my money i can do what i want with it.
However, the issue that i have been faced with right now is for the passed i would say 80 Cypher keys "Caches" bought "At the very least it might be more like the past 120" But atleast lets just say minimum for the past 80 keys i bought i have not received 1 new item out of the Encrypted Caches. All Duplicates.
If we go right before these past 80-120 keys i bought the last time i got an item was before this and at that time IIRC i bought 2 40packs and got no more then a few maybe a handful MAX of items.
Something doesn't seem right here. I thought the system was built around to help you get closer and closer to the items you dont have and at the start it was all good, i got all the vanity sets within 30 keys and slowly got alot of the other stuff over the next 80 or so i bought and alot that i farmed for.
But it seems ive reached the point About 200 keys ago where i feel iam just throwing money away now on the last 3x 40 packs "120 cypher keys"
Even though i know for a Fact there is at least "at the very least" 1 item that my friend has gotten that i have yet to get. SO i know for a fact there is 1 item i still need. But i just dont know.
So since they said the system is built to make you get closer to those items you dont have the more you play then how come i haven't gotten it yet or any new items and ive been getting nothing but duplicates for a while now.
I mean the first i would say 100+ caches i opened it was all good. In fact got all the sets under 30 caches.
So how are we suppose to know how many items are in the pool to win. One can have them all but not know and still be spending money for nothing.
So today i saw the vendor got restocked and gave it another shot ran through 10 caches and still all duplicates so i stopped.
I think there is a flaw in the system somewhere because iam not getting anything anymore but duplicates.
Any help on this would be appreciated Massive?
I dont mind spending money on this stuff as you can see Massive. In fact its a little light for me. I'd like more. But at this point i feel iam throwing money away because i dont know whats left to pull from the caches or if there is nothing left to win/get..
At least with the premium vendor you know if you bought everything. "It TELLS YOU that You Own Everything"
But how do i know for the Encrypted Caches.?
I wont play anymore until i get an answer for this or them fix it as to be honest i feel a little disappointed right now having getting duplicated for so long now.
So to be Clear.
How do we know we if there is more items still left to win.?
How do we know if we own everything?
How come i haven't gotten that 1 item that my friend got in the at least 80 Keys i bought "Its way more caches then 80 keep that in mind since duplicates give you frag keys" if the system is built around the more you play the more closer you get to that item you need?
Thank you. Looking forward to figuring this out.
I have the same issue. Every time I open an encrypted cache with a key. I get 2 or 3 duplicates for each key. These screenshots are the last keys I used. Something is wrong. I should receive a new key for having 3 duplicates in one cache. Each duplicate should reward you 3 key fragments like was stated by Matt on the sotg.
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That's the whole idea keep you guessing so you spend more money to try and get what's left (oldest trick in the book)
They won't tell you what's left to get ever. Got to spend for chance of getting everything.
ps: you don't win ever it's gambling and weighted towards the owners not the customer paying money for it.
Not True.Originally Posted by MorePvE4u Go to original post
Name 1 Game that has no prize for playing.?
There is always a prize. (Should always be a prize or no one will play)
Just like in a Claw machine you can see through the glass whats left to win.
But it seems in this case and at this point the Encrypted Caches "For me" is a Claw machine with no see through windows and appears to have dried up and a shot in the dark.
But the guy specificly said that its weighted in a way the more you play the more it moves you closer to the items that you do not have. But how do i know whats left.? Is it dried up? etc
and that went good up until this point or rather 150+ keys ago. Now it seems to not be working correctly with the system they have in place.
I could care less if its weighted for the "House" its not why i play. I play in this case for the vanity items because i want them and thats the only way to get them ATM nothing more. If i want to spend the money to get them whatever the cost may be so be it. I dont live pay check to pay check to care about the money. my point is either i have all the items "Which iam pretty certain that i miss atleast 1 hat that my friend got that i still dont have "Simple Fur Hat" maybe also a emote but not sure" and or the system is not working correctly when you're trying to get that last few items. which a few people mentioned previously before it went live and i say again the guy said there is a system in place that will keep putting you closer to that 1 item you miss "so its not a 1 in a million chance to win etc"and it doesnt seem to be work that way anymore when you have the large majority of the items and just need a few more.
My issue here is For the past Minimum 80 Keys i bought which turn out to be well over 100 caches opened "Due to duplicates which give you fragments back" I have been getting ALL duplicates with No Prize. Not a single prize.
Their needs to be a Prize otherwise no point in playing. But how do i know if there is No prize left. it doesn't tell me that i own everything.
Iam not asking them to show me all the items before i play for the vanity items. Just tell me if i own everything or not. There for i wont waste money if there is no prize and ill just wait till they restock the pool of items.
So Massive.
How do we know if there is more items still left to win.?
How do we know if we own everything?
How come i haven't gotten that 1 item that my friend got in the at least 80 Keys i bought "Its way more caches then 80 keep that in mind since duplicates give you frag keys" if the system is built around the more you play the more closer you get to that item you need to unlock?
Like i said many times i dont mind spending the money and or farming for the keys but if there is no items left or the system is broken when you have everything but just a couple items then i dont want to play anymore until its fixed and my questioned are answered.
lol ok (duplicates are the prize just for paying and playing.)
Trust me they won't tell you, you need to spend spend spend in the hope of getting what's left.
That's how this works (it's deliberately broken and tied to an unreliable RNG system) the duplicates are deliberate SPEND MORE MONEY.
WHY? TO GET YOU TO SPEND MORE MONEY AND KEEPING YOU SPENDING MORE MONEY. the odds are stacked against you deliberately. (surely you get it now) please say you understand how this works.
It's feeding on your desire to have everything.
BUT how do you know whats left is what my point is. It honestly makes NO diffrence to them if they say "More Items are left to win" or something like that.
I highly doubt they purposely made it so that you dont know how many items are left. But more so an Oversite as lets be real not many are going to spend the money to get everything before they restock it.
Further more why wouldn't they want you to know there is more items left.?
Look at it this way most people that get duplicated back to back to back will just stop playing. but if they know there is still more items left they will continue to play.
Look in my case i get nothing but duplicates now but still know "Pretty sure" that i still have at least 1 hat left to get but i will not play because i think something is wrong with the system at this stage.
I know what your saying but every game has a Prize. Duplicates/ "Key Frags" in return is not a prize. Atleast in my eyes its not andiam pretty sure massive would agree.
If Massive tells me that then ok ill have to deal with it.
But i want an answer from Massive on this...... Otherwise i will not play anymore because its honestly throwing money away now for me.
Look fella they will not tell you because it's feeding your desire to have everything and the only way to have everything is to spend spend spend.
You may stop but there are others who won't stop spending money to get everything even if it costs $500 or £500 or 500 /euro's they are praying on those who have the need to want everything in the game vanity items/gear etc etc etc.
It's called addictive and it gets people addicted to buying it.
PS: you are doing exactly what they wanted people to do THROW MONEY AT THEM for basically nothing lol
You dont get it Buddy.
Its Not feeding my Desire to get everything when i dont know if there is anything left to desire. You are under the assumption that i know there is still items left still in this pool and that i desire to get whats left.
What you keep failing to understand is there is a System they put in place for this very issue that iam having which i repeat puts you closer to the items you dont have and still need. Not 80+ Keys and not get anything when i got all the vanity sets in under 30 keys.
Second if they dont want to tell me and answer my question so be it. I wont play it anymore. end of discussion. I honestly dont care how others want to spend there money, So if they want to keep playing for the duplicates and spend 500$+ its up to them. Not my money not my problem.
I asked very reasonable questions to them in hopes of figuring this issue out.
Iam not doing anything they want me to do. Please dont twist the words. Iam doing whatever i want to do and the second i notice an issue iam here reporting it and not continuing. So how aim i doing exactly what they want.?
I love the fact that you are trying to lecture me on gambling and addictive behavior. LUL
maybe spend a little more time playing the game then on the forum and assuming things that you dont know anything about.
Then STOP friggin buying them. jeez.
You don't get it and never will
Either stop or carry on (they won't tell you if anything is left ever) done dusted finished.
Why would I want to play this exploited/bugged unfinished pile of crap anymore it's trash now ruined and had micro transactions added something they said they'll never add.