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[Casper5632]

The highlander is unable to counterattack on the cents unblockable lunge stab that transitions into a free knockdown. This needs to be fixed ASAP as the highlander is already at a huge disadvantage in the defensive mechanics.

[Tyrjo]

I don't think you are able to do that on any hero. UBs need to be parried or dodged.

[Casper5632]

Highlander doesn't benefit from parrying or dodging. Counterattack is all we get. SO it needs to be fixed.

[Tyrjo]

I understand what you mean, it would however "break the rules" of how the mechanics work. If you parry or dodge you get the benefit of not taking 65 dmg leaving you with 50% left.

Don't get me wrong here. I main Highlander right now, he's rep 9, but I don't think adding crushing counter to UBs is the way to fix this. Rather his GB range which is bugged from what I've heard.

[Casper5632]

But until they fix our guard break we are by definition at a disadvantage against cents and any other classes that depend on unblockables. We have literally no attacks that allow us to strafe and attack at a moments notice. We cant depend on a parry that cant be dependably followed up with a guard break or light attack. You can crushing counter a crushing counter, which itself is unblockable, but you cant crushing counter a non crushing counter? This doesnt make any sense. They gave us that ability to compensate for the ****e parry mechanic. Make it ACTUALLY COMPENSATE for a parry, or rebuild the entire class design from the ground up. What is easier for ubi?

[Tyrjo]

Until GB is fixed. Try parry (hold R2) and going OF, kick, heavy. That works in most cases against cents.

[Casper5632]

Ive tried that but it usually involves them smacking me with a light attack attack. If I try to go offensive on a cent it just is dependent on them already initiated an attack, and that attack not landing before my heavy attack super armor kicks in. If they play defensively I am completely helpless as they will just dodge/parry into guard break into a fatal combo every time I try and attack.

I cant just not ****ing guard break guys. This needs fixed now.

[Klingentaenz3r]

But until they fix our guard break we are by definition at a disadvantage against cents and any other classes that depend on unblockables. We have literally no attacks that allow us to strafe and attack at a moments notice. We cant depend on a parry that cant be dependably followed up with a guard break or light attack. You can crushing counter a crushing counter, which itself is unblockable, but you cant crushing counter a non crushing counter? This doesnt make any sense. They gave us that ability to compensate for the ****e parry mechanic. Make it ACTUALLY COMPENSATE for a parry, or rebuild the entire class design from the ground up. What is easier for ubi?

what the hell are you talking about. You cannot crushing counter a crushing counter, simply because there is no class other than assassins that would recover fast enough and those can only parry it due to the reflex guard and of course that NO crushing counter, which works with superior block properties, works for unblockables - simple as that. Man if a Cent uses the charged unblockable dodge or parry -> Free GB. And if you are near a wall you get a good punish out of that. If not a zone or even a light chips good damage, with the light giving you the opportunity to strike back with a combo right away. I have been playing yesterday against a cent all evening. Maybe you should do that too. if you have the time btw you could also use celtic curse to directly attack while evading an attack from the cent. Little risky yes, but if you get the timing down it's quite something.

Overall Highlander vs Cent seems fine to me (although I was up against quite a decent parry counter attacker). The Highlander can finish a Cent quite fast, so can the Cent the Highlander. The only downside to the Highlander is that he gets out of stamina very fast on his own but if you have a good defence / keep your distance at the right time you can also get back into the fight again and then it can go one way or the other.

And last but not least, gb fix should come with today's live patch, so no need to rant about this atm. if you didn't knew try to inform yourself a little better beforehand before going on a riot day after day (and yes I can sympathize in finding that sth like this should have been hotfixed right away instead of postponing it to the next patch date)

[Tyrjo]

Ive tried that but it usually involves them smacking me with a light attack attack. If I try to go offensive on a cent it just is dependent on them already initiated an attack, and that attack not landing before my heavy attack super armor kicks in. If they play defensively I am completely helpless as they will just dodge/parry into guard break into a fatal combo every time I try and attack.

Did you ever try tossing an OF side light in first, then kick, OF heavy?