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    Thanks for the feedback, Herbstlicht! Highlander definitely seems to be on the weaker side, from the community's perspective and we've been listening to a lot of the feedback that coming in on him.I'll definitely makes note of the discussion here, so keep talking it up everyone! The more feedback we can get to highlight potential areas for improvement, the better.
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    The highlander ruined 4 v 4 modes

    if the higlander doesn't get buffed in the next update, myself and 5 people I know have decided to delete the game and vow not to redownload it. If it were up to me the character would be removed entirely. If you comment with opposition to this post the Ill just disregard it, because you're just turd and you play an over powered unfair advantage character. if you are higher than rep 5 with the highlander then you should probably get some sun, GO OUTSIDE LOSER. #Season3KilledForHonor
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    Originally Posted by AAR0NDAAW3SM3 Go to original post
    if the higlander doesn't get buffed in the next update, myself and 5 people I know have decided to delete the game and vow not to redownload it. If it were up to me the character would be removed entirely. If you comment with opposition to this post the Ill just disregard it, because you're just turd and you play an over powered unfair advantage character. if you are higher than rep 5 with the highlander then you should probably get some sun, GO OUTSIDE LOSER. #Season3KilledForHonor
    Lol I love angst you posts like this. It's humorous to see a forum lurker call out gamers on not having a life! XD
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    Well, I really enjoy playing the Higlander (Rep 11, Gearscore 180) and I get enogh sun.

    I would appreciate it, if he would be a Little bit faster and get just a bit more health.
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    I'm curious about the DATA. A lot of player seems to think Highlander is on the weak side of things, but in Dominion, I see them dominating more than getting fed upon.

    I know from a Shinobi's perspective, Highlanders are my ABSOLUTE WORST match up. That match up is totally unfair and one sided. A single heavy (which is really hard to react tho due to the celtic curse mix up potentiel) will lead to an automatic 2nd top heavy follow up. With gear and the 2nd feat, those 2 heavy together one shot the Shinobi.
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    I'm curious about the DATA. A lot of player seems to think Highlander is on the weak side of things, but in Dominion, I see them dominating more than getting fed upon.

    I know from a Shinobi's perspective, Highlanders are my ABSOLUTE WORST match up. That match up is totally unfair and one sided. A single heavy (which is really hard to react tho due to the celtic curse mix up potentiel) will lead to an automatic 2nd top heavy follow up. With gear and the 2nd feat, those 2 heavy together one shot the Shinobi.
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    Originally Posted by We.the.North Go to original post
    I'm curious about the DATA. A lot of player seems to think Highlander is on the weak side of things, but in Dominion, I see them dominating more than getting fed upon.

    I know from a Shinobi's perspective, Highlanders are my ABSOLUTE WORST match up. That match up is totally unfair and one sided. A single heavy (which is really hard to react tho due to the celtic curse mix up potentiel) will lead to an automatic 2nd top heavy follow up. With gear and the 2nd feat, those 2 heavy together one shot the Shinobi.
    This is a case of outside looking in, it's easy to judge that based on how it effects you personally. And while i agree it's bs that a Shinobi can get two shot under the right circumstances; it's just that. Circumstantial. As highlander I have a problem with most assassins, (which is freaking hilarious coming from a PK main) the only benefit I have going for me in that regard is experience as an assassin.
    As a Shinobi you'd be better off trying quick hit and run tactics. You have excellent range and speed, not to mention follow up light hits coming from the same side are guaranteed. Hell I'd wait for the attempt at OS the hit them with a grab that leads into sickle rain.
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    As a Shinobi you'd be better off trying quick hit and run tactics. You have excellent range and speed, not to mention follow up light hits coming from the same side are guaranteed.
    Light + Light is 28 damage. 33 with gear stats on. A Highlander has 125 hp. In other words, I need to be able to "light-light" him 4 times in a row to kill him. If during that time he catches me ONCE with a heavy attack (keep in mind, those heavy attack have hyper armor so my light+light wont stagger him), I'm dead.

    I'm perfectly aware of what Shinobi can and can't do. I'm just stating the obvious truth :

    - A Shinobi has to successfully "out-play" a Highlander 3-4 times to kill him*.
    - A single mistake and the Shinobi is dead against the Highlander. (Dominion with 2nd feat unlocked and gear stats on)

    That's not balanced. To come back to the initial discussion, here's my perspective from a Shinobi point of view : There is no way in hell I'd accept buffing the Highlander in any way if Shinobi remains untouched. That match up is already completely once sided.

    As for other match ups, I do believe Highlander is in a very good place. He's not the strongest and he's not the weakest. I wouldn't touch him.
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    Originally Posted by We.the.North Go to original post
    Light + Light is 28 damage. 33 with gear stats on. A Highlander has 125 hp. In other words, I need to be able to "light-light" him 4 times in a row to kill him. If during that time he catches me ONCE with a heavy attack (keep in mind, those heavy attack have hyper armor so my light+light wont stagger him), I'm dead.

    I'm perfectly aware of what Shinobi can and can't do. I'm just stating the obvious truth :

    - A Shinobi has to successfully "out-play" a Highlander 3-4 times to kill him*.
    - A single mistake and the Shinobi is dead against the Highlander. (Dominion with 2nd feat unlocked and gear stats on)

    That's not balanced. To come back to the initial discussion, here's my perspective from a Shinobi point of view : There is no way in hell I'd accept buffing the Highlander in any way if Shinobi remains untouched. That match up is already completely once sided.

    As for other match ups, I do believe Highlander is in a very good place. He's not the strongest and he's not the weakest. I wouldn't touch him.
    I never said Shinobi doesn't have his work cut out for him, but with his speed a d the slow activation on the hyper armor without a Celtic Curse cancel hit your lights are faster than the hyper armor.

    Also note: assassins should not be trading hits with heavies like HL. Shug, and WL. I've learned that the hard way.

    Lastly, this isn't a subject on Shinobi, I've been a proponent of giving him a tweak anyway. That doesn't mean however that the HL is perfect. The heavies even with Hyper armor are extremely parry-able, which means deflecting them should be even easier.
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    Lastly, this isn't a subject on Shinobi,
    Hence the :

    As for other match ups, I do believe Highlander is in a very good place. He's not the strongest and he's not the weakest. I wouldn't touch him.
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