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[NPG_Opie]

Are you sure the top does more damage? I was under the impression that heavies are all the same damage no matter which direction it comes from.

Yes, I've tested it in practice mode. The top defensive heavy does more damage than the other heavies

[Tyrjo]

Yes, I've tested it in practice mode. The top defensive heavy does more damage than the other heavies

I also looked it up. You are correct. Top is 40, side is 30.

[The_B0G_]

Alright so I've been using a lot of this advice and it has been working but does any have an answer for what to do about fast light spamming?

It seem to be Highlanders biggest weakness for me. His attacks don't do enough damage to even back spammers off when you do hit them, they just keep trading and usually win and these are assassin classes with low HP.

[The_B0G_]

In my opinion the Highlander needs a damage buff.

[Tyrjo]

Yes, this is a problem for him indeed. I personally think his damage is fine, but his HP is pitiful low, only 125. So no wonder you can't trade with an assassin.

[The_B0G_]

Yes, this is a problem for him indeed. I personally think his damage is fine, but his HP is pitiful low, only 125. So no wonder you can't trade with an assassin.

Part of his play style is supposed to be trading hits too, seems like an imbalance since he can't even trade with assassins.

[UbiNoty]

Kweassa1 recently put out a post that might be helpful to you .

And we're aware that HL does feel a bit lacking, especially against assassins. Mostly I've seen that it's his slow speed that is the problem, but I'll ask out of curiosity since I've seen some points raised about his dmg/hp here - would a hp buff/dmg buff be enough to make him feel more strong without touching his speed?

[The_B0G_]

Kweassa1 recently put out a post that might be helpful to you .

And we're aware that HL does feel a bit lacking, especially against assassins. Mostly I've seen that it's his slow speed that is the problem, but I'll ask out of curiosity since I've seen some points raised about his dmg/hp here - would a hp buff/dmg buff be enough to make him feel more strong without touching his speed?

Kweassa1 is on PC though, the game isn't the same on console so I was kind of looking for other feedback.

I think more damage and health would help, but once assassins close the gap you basically can't do much against light spamming, his GB is so close range that it usually misses even when they are right in front of you.

His offensive stance lights seem fast enough to combat assassin light spamming but to get into offensive stance itself takes way too long to use them for that purpose. His dodge is about the same as lawbringers too which doesn't do much for making space between you.

His crushing counter is hard to get on console and I know thats probably the main answer in his moveset to combat light spamming, but out of 50+ matches on ps4 with higlanders in them I've only seen one who consistantly could punish people with that.

Last night Out of 10 games only 1 had a HL in it. It seems like people are already putting him on the shelf and going bavk to their other characters, I know I'm back on my LB.

[Alustar.exe]

Kweassa1 is on PC though, the game isn't the same on console so I was kind of looking for other feedback.

I think more damage and health would help, but once assassins close the gap you basically can't do much against light spamming, his GB is so close range that it usually misses even when they are right in front of you.

His offensive stance lights seem fast enough to combat assassin light spamming but to get into offensive stance itself takes way too long to use them for that purpose. His dodge is about the same as lawbringers too which doesn't do much for making space between you.

His crushing counter is hard to get on console and I know thats probably the main answer in his moveset to combat light spamming, but out of 50+ matches on ps4 with higlanders in them I've only seen one who consistantly could punish people with that.

Last night Out of 10 games only 1 had a HL in it. It seems like people are already putting him on the shelf and going bavk to their other characters, I know I'm back on my LB.

Against assassins you don't want to go for crushing counter on lights unless you know their attack patterns. Save CC for the heavies cause you can fast flow quicker from that than a parry.

[UbiNoty]

Kweassa1 is on PC though, the game isn't the same on console so I was kind of looking for other feedback.

I think more damage and health would help, but once assassins close the gap you basically can't do much against light spamming, his GB is so close range that it usually misses even when they are right in front of you.

His offensive stance lights seem fast enough to combat assassin light spamming but to get into offensive stance itself takes way too long to use them for that purpose. His dodge is about the same as lawbringers too which doesn't do much for making space between you.

His crushing counter is hard to get on console and I know thats probably the main answer in his moveset to combat light spamming, but out of 50+ matches on ps4 with higlanders in them I've only seen one who consistantly could punish people with that.

Last night Out of 10 games only 1 had a HL in it. It seems like people are already putting him on the shelf and going bavk to their other characters, I know I'm back on my LB.

I'm a PC player myself so it's good to hear these kinds of observations. I hadn't previously connected the dots of the possibility of less console players playing HL with the light attack issues on console.
We'll have to see if HL actually is less played on console based on the hard-data, and if certain matchups are affecting his win rates - but I will bring up with the devs to keep an eye out for!