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View Poll Results: Will you join me in boycotting Siege for a week?

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  • Yes! From the 5th through the 12th!

    18 9.38%
  • Yes! From the 12th through the 19th!

    8 4.17%
  • Yes! For as long as it takes!

    113 58.85%
  • No, I'm gonna just keep playing.

    53 27.60%
  1. #1
    NATural22cHANce's Avatar Senior Member
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    Siege Community! We HAVE to BOYCOTT Season 3!

    EDIT--Go here to vote on and discuss what the primary goal of this boycott is for you.

    I don't know about you guys, but I didn't sit through a late-announced 4-month Operation Health wait so we could have LESS playable content when it ended! We already had the Polish map removed to make way for Operation No Refunds, and now Casual players have Favela and Yacht removed, and Ranked players have those 2 maps removed as well as House, Hereford, Plane, Bartlett, and Kanal, plus the first brand new map in 7 months (Theme Park) will not be playable in Ranked! It's unacceptable!

    We need to make a stand! We need to let Ubishaft know how unhappy we are with this decision! We need to boycott this game for at least 1 full week! We can make a difference! We can make a change! When the number of players playing AFTER the start of a brand-new season drops significantly, Ubi will have no choice but to take notice! We can do this! We can go without the game we love for a week, for the good of the months and years to come!

    So please, upvote this thread! Vote in the poll to show your willingness to participate in this boycott! Choose either the week of September 5th through the 12th (official launch of Season 3 and access to new ops for SP holders) or the week of September 12th through the 19th (access to new ops for all players), or both!

    I for one, as someone who didn't buy the SP, will be boycotting the 5th through the 12th, but I don't want anyone who spent their hard-earned money on the SP (thank you guys BTW) to have to throw away their week of "early" access, so the week of the 12th through the 19th is available for you guys to make a statement. Who knows, I may even extend my boycott if Ubisoft tries to ignore us. Remember, they need us more than we need them! There are other games out there! Other developers we could support! Don't let Ubishaft forget that!

    Stand strong my friends!

    /cheesy speech

    But seriously, we can and should boycott. I definitely will. I hope some of you will join me.

    Edit--Adding one of my recent posts:

    Honestly I'm amazed (but not surprised) by the support this is getting. Please continue to share this with anyone and in any way you can think of. Right now I'm trying to get the attention of Iceycat (iceycat25 on YouTube and Twitter) because he is the only Youtuber I've found so far who is adamantly opposed to this change. If enough of us tweet at him and comment on his recent videos maybe we can get him to make a video on this movement. That video would be seen by easily 100,000 people and would be tremendous for our cause.
    Edit 2--Quote from my newer thread elaborating on why I'm boycotting:

    I appreciate the responses guys. Really, I do. Coop's posts especially have got me thinking, and I feel that my original reasons for the boycott have been overshadowed a bit by many quick "gut reaction" type posts and votes. People heard that we're losing maps and understandably are immediately upset and fully against any change whatsoever. Couple this with the fact that many players are not satisfied with Operation Health and SP holders especially feel a bit jibbed by the release of the full season 3 patch on the TTS a week before they were supposed to get their exclusive access, and my boycott proposal tapped into a vein of anger and frustration that I for one had no idea was so strong, and quite frankly I was not ready for it.

    So let's take a step back here. Let me try to summarize what my vision for this boycott is.

    To start off with, I fully plan to return to this game full-force once this boycott is over, regardless of whether any of Ubisoft's decisions are reversed or not. This has never been a "give me what I want or I'm taking my ball and going home" type of ultimatum. I would definitely say that this is much more of a protest than a threat to quit entirely. Maybe I just gave the thing a whole lot less weight with that statement, but it's the truth. I don't want to leave, and these changes alone are not enough to make me consider it.

    So what exactly am I protesting? I am protesting the idea that Ranked is some kind of ESL practice mode. I am protesting the fact that Ubisoft made the decision to attempt to turn it into one with no input from the community, and with barely any warning. There was no "hey guys, what do you think about reducing Ranked to the 9 most well-balanced maps?" followed by a couple weeks for them to listen to our feedback and make a final decision. That final decision would still ultimately be Ubi's, but I would have a lot more faith that they know what they're doing if they actually ask us first. They could make the exact same decision they would have made anyway, but I would be more accepting of it because they clearly strongly feel it's the right move if they still make it despite our being against it. But just making the decision out of the blue like they did makes me wonder where their head is at.

    Now, I'm not entirely against the rotation/removal of maps. First, let's talk about the removal of Yacht and Favela from Casual. I don't really buy the idea that they are being removed for the sake of new players. I think it has more to do with these data limits we are approaching and Ubisoft is trying to get us used to the idea of not having every single map available all the time. Like Coop said, we've only really been promised to get a new map every season. We were never really promised that Ubisoft would be able to support, maintain or balance operators around a constantly-growing pool of maps. So while I am disappointed by the loss of these maps, again I am more disappointed by the lack of open communication between Ubi and the community. If this is to be a thing going forward then we need to have some say in which maps are removed and which ones stay.

    But Ranked is where my real gripes are. I understand the idea of limiting the competitive playlist to the most competitive maps, but I feel the ESL pool is just a few maps too small. I think Kanal and Hereford would be good choices to keep in the pool, but again, I feel like the whole community should get to provide some input both on how big the Ranked pool is and which maps stay in it. I don't think it should just come down to what the pro players feel are good maps. Because if it does I don't really think we'll see any of the maps that aren't currently in the pool back in Ranked ever again. And that would be a shame.

    And now for the elephant in the room: Theme Park. We have waited an extra 3+ months for this map and now it's not going to be available in the competitive playlist for at least another 3? That to me is completely unacceptable and is the primary reason I will be boycotting. It is bad for both playlists for this map to only be available in casual. Ranked players will not be able to learn how the map functions in a competitive setting, and Casual players who don't want to play that seriously are likely to be "pub-stomped" by full squads of Platinum-ranked players who are only in Casual to get a chance to play the new map. It's bad for both sides, and like I said, I would boycott just for this decision.

    Now that I've talked about why I'm boycotting, let me talk about what I want to get out of it. First and most importantly, I want to let Ubisoft to know just how strongly I feel about these decisions. What I'd like for them to do about it for the immediate future is to put Theme Park in Ranked for the entirety of Season 3. And for the future map rotations they need to let us, as the players, have a say in what maps will be in both playlists. I personally would really like there to be more than 10 maps total in Ranked but again, I want the whole community to get to voice their opinion on which maps are balanced enough for Ranked.

    One more thing. I never wanted to divide the playerbase between those who are and those who aren't boycotting. This isn't a "with us or against us" thing. I don't even want to create a divide between the players and the developers. We both want what's best for the game. There have just been some major lapses in communication about what each group feels is best and that's what has led to this entire situation. And I feel like if we don't speak up now the next situation could be even worse.
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    Whelp... don't know how many we'll be... but me and mine are joining into the boycott... time to dedicate our relaxation time to PUBG or something for this year.
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    My group of dedicated Siege players have all completely had our excitement for season 3 taken away by todays news.
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    Just don't buy anything from this scammers, they only understand $$$.
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    Originally Posted by FMM-Badea Go to original post
    Whelp... don't know how many we'll be... but me and mine are joining into the boycott... time to dedicate our relaxation time to PUBG or something for this year.
    Glad to have you aboard! We don't have to quit playing indefinitely, just long enough to get our point across. A week should be plenty if we get enough people. Tell your friends! I'll be doing my best to get my group to take a week off!

    OT- Poll is up
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    Quoting myself from the other thread as its relevant here:

    Originally Posted by jacob armitage Go to original post
    Everyone upset please tweet at Ubisoft, Rainbow Six Siege, kindly contact support, and even the gaming press letting them know how upset you are - lets make sure this gets the bad press it deserves until Ubisoft rectifies this.
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    Originally Posted by NATural22cHANce Go to original post
    I don't know about you guys, but I didn't sit through a late-announced 4-month Operation Health wait so we could have LESS playable content when it ended! We already had the Polish map removed to make way for Operation No Refunds, and now Casual players have Favela and Yacht removed, and Ranked players have those 2 maps removed as well as House, Hereford, Plane, Bartlett, and Kanal, plus the first brand new map in 7 months (Theme Park) will not be playable in Ranked! It's unacceptable!

    We need to make a stand! We need to let Ubishaft know how unhappy we are with this decision! We need to boycott this game for at least 1 full week! We can make a difference! We can make a change! When the number of players playing AFTER the start of a brand-new season drops significantly, Ubi will have no choice but to take notice! We can do this! We can go without the game we love for a week, for the good of the months and years to come!

    So please, upvote this thread! Vote in the poll to show your willingness to participate in this boycott! Choose either the week of September 5th through the 12th (official launch of Season 3 and access to new ops for SP holders) or the week of September 12th through the 19th (access to new ops for all players), or both!

    I for one, as someone who didn't buy the SP, will be boycotting the 5th through the 12th, but I don't want anyone who spent their hard-earned money on the SP (thank you guys BTW) to have to throw away their week of "early" access, so the week of the 12th through the 19th is available for you guys to make a statement. Who knows, I may even extend my boycott if Ubisoft tries to ignore us. Remember, they need us more than we need them! There are other games out there! Other developers we could support! Don't let Ubishaft forget that!

    Stand strong my friends!

    /cheesy speech

    But seriously, we can and should boycott. I definitely will. I hope some of you will join me.
    Yes to this and no one should buy in game content till season 4 or when they give us are maps back I was going to buy pulse elite but if this is they way the game is going. Is there even a point.
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    Originally Posted by NATural22cHANce Go to original post
    Glad to have you aboard! We don't have to quit playing indefinitely, just long enough to get our point across. A week should be plenty if we get enough people. Tell your friends! I'll be doing my best to get my group to take a week off!

    OT- Poll is up
    My 45 strong psn group is in we won't play from 12th till 19th.
    We are a group of high plats and diamonds
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    Originally Posted by SMG-Givvo-96 Go to original post
    Yes to this and no one should buy in game content till season 4 or when they give us are maps back I was going to buy pulse elite but if this is they way the game is going. Is there even a point.
    I personally have not bought any in-game content from this or any other game. However, I was planning on buying the year 3 pass (assuming there will still be one) but after the last week or so of BS from Ubisoft I'm absolutely not going to give them any money unless things get much better real quick. I'm also having moral dilemmas about continuing to watch my favorite Siege Youtubers and streamers and I really don't feel like watching the pro league finals right now. I feel like I just got slapped in the face and now I'm supposed to shake that hand.
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    My team is in too!
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