A simple solution to this Leaderboard/Vanity Issue | Forums

[oxocube91]

Hello all,

I've seen a fair amount of complaints both on this forum, reddit and youtube over how poorly this vanity reward and leadership board thing has gone down.
I too feel somewhat cheated by how poorly the system has worked as I too only got the first vanity mask despite desperate speedrun attempts at hudson railyards and getting a respectible 5K/hr rate only to be disheartened by looking at the top of the leaderboards to see what appeared to be impossible to achieve numbers at the top end.

Most of these will have been achieved through a mix of hacks and exploiting a broken system, this I understand is always going to be an issue with any system, but I also believe the numerical percentages are also off to add to the woes.

This demonstrates the short term the leaderboard system does not work, perhaps down the line when it measures statistics correctly that may change but for now its more of a headache for players and most likely the Dev's to be worth the bother.

What I've seen very little of is people posting an alternative way to measure 'Skill' and 'hard work and effort' that the vanity masks are supposed to be rewarding.

My solution is rather simple but rather effective, why not have the commendation system (thats already implemented may I add) as a way to earn the vanity items?
I for one despite only getting a modest score managed to achieve all 15/15 commendations which I would argue takes alot more time, effort and skill than the mindless grind, not to mention some of the commendations are rather difficult, but achievable legitimately.

Even the scoring system would be rather easy:

5 Commendations = First tier rewards.
10 Commendations = Second tier rewards.
15 Commendations = Third tier rewards

I'm sure people will still hack and cheat to beat the system, but at least in this way the player base won't be robbed of a fair reward because someone else exploited a loophole or used an aimbot. Fair effort for fair rewards.

Ultimately shouldn't these global events be making the players challenge themselves rather than each other anyway?
What do the rest of you think?

Thanks for reading,
Oxo

[gt2k]

any reward should be achieved through playing the game and not some broken leader board. hackers and cheater will always be rewarded because Massive encourages it and always have. Like you said that it wouldn't effect other players. I see no problems with this.

[ink3pointoh]

I like that idea but I think they will run out of commendations unless they just increase the numbers required for the commendations currently in place.

[LubzinNJ]

I like that idea but I think they will run out of commendations unless they just increase the numbers required for the commendations currently in place.

The commendations for the vanity awards being awarded for each particular event would be the ones associated with that global event. So it encourages folks to play the global event content and not exploit broken leaderboard mechanics.

[RHD_Nomad]

The thing is that these masks should have been in the commendations as the trailer for the update said, but as we all see that seems to have been a cut feature much like a lot of things way back when the game was only a few E3 clips. I agree with your proposal to this solution but the thing is, these three masks HAVE to be given out to everyone as an apology from Massive, now when i say this the try hard cheese heads will go in and say all kinds of BS that that shouldn't happen etc

[PackingMoney]

I actually like this because some of the commendations were actually annoying to get, such as pistol pete, so it only seems fair that the person is rewarded with something that can them to a mask rather than a key fragment alone.

[LubzinNJ]

The thing is that these masks should have been in the commendations as the trailer for the update said, but as we all see that seems to have been a cut feature much like a lot of things way back when the game was only a few E3 clips. I agree with your proposal to this solution but the thing is, these three masks HAVE to be given out to everyone as an apology from Massive, now when i say this the try hard cheese heads will go in and say all kinds of BS that that shouldn't happen etc

It only makes sense from a PR standpoint to just give them out which is why they won't do it. Keep in mind this is the same company who thinks after the success they had at bringing folks back with the first global event it is a good idea to go ahead scheduling the second to occur during launch week of Destiny 2.

[RHD_Nomad]

The commendations for the vanity awards being awarded for each particular event would be the ones associated with that global event. So it encourages folks to play the global event content and not exploit broken leaderboard mechanics.

The other guy says increase the requirements, well the current one in place for To the last man, They got Alex, The Reaper, etc are already demanding you grind a specific enemy over and over, now i found a way to do so but its boring and bland, For say DZ baron commendations, i personally hate PvP in this game and gathering about 20mil DZ funds is a pain in the *** with all the rogues, hackers and try hards, i understand making the requirement for NPC kills high but something PvP wise should be extremely low seeing the game in that department is nowhere near fair for everyone. Having to kill 250 rogues, cool, sounds easy, then you see there are 4 stages, each adding 50-200+ more, to someone who is a casual and not a fan of PvP because of the games horrible balancing its way too high, i feel like they made that demand to get the commendation high on purpose so that they wouldn't have to make more commendations because the ones that demand a lot of you are extreme or annoying to get will keep you busy failing or just mindlessly grinding till they can come up with new ones or other ways to make it "better" Not to mention the current fiasco on their hands being a total **** storm

[orthow]

I've made this exact suggestion multiple times since the leaderboards were introduced.

I mean it's a common sense solution. Too bad common sense seems to be on short supply around here lately.

[RHD_Nomad]

It only makes sense from a PR standpoint to just give them out which is why they won't do it. Keep in mind this is the same company who thinks after the success they had at bringing folks back with the first global event it is a good idea to go ahead scheduling the second to occur during launch week of Destiny 2.

Destiny 2 will kill off most of the console side of The Division, after 2 months the PC release will kill this game entirely mostly because its become so bad that massive thinks its a good idea to move more then half maybe even 8/10ths of their whole team from TD1 to The Division 2 when the first game is a fiasco with the amount of mistakes they made, i mean they said Year 2 will only have 2 content updates, this is literally one of them and its obvious that half of it wasn't even new but something that was already in the game or had to be from the start. Massive not only made bad choices update wise but game wise. Destiny 2 has more potential then this game currently does in getting a good and ever lasting player base, Massive made sure this game would die after all this time