Centurion Balance from and Experienced Player | Forums

[TheGoop711]

I know Centurion balance is a hot button topic - people feel strongly one way or the other. However, even experienced (and very good) players like AntinioJ26 feel he needs adjustment.

(source for full discussion: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-in-1v1/page13)

Jiblet: "However, each have acknowledged problems with the cent -even Antonio. "I've extended the olive branch to you and even agreed with you on what needs changing with centurion (stam pool, wall stun, light parry punish)." (source: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-mid-air/page8)

Antonio: "That's very dishonest of you to take my extending the "olive branch" quote out of context. Here I thought we were finally getting somewhere."

Jiblet: "Out of context? I provided the link to the original post. If you would like i can provide more context from the very same page if that clarifies your position. . .
When I said that your balance changes should be based on how you feel and not a way of "extending an olive branch," you replied (on the very same page):

"The nerfs weren't the olive branch, the nerfs have always been how I felt. I got a lot of posts so it would be hard to find but from the very beginning I've said the exact same thing before I even ran into you. His stam pool is too high, his light parry punish is too strong, and his wall stun is too strong."

source: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-mid-air/page8

To mods- this is a neutral post about recommendations Jiblet, AntonionJ26, and I feel should be made to centurion using only quotes from out discussions and should not be construed as a "call out thread." The only original language is the first 2 sentences, one of which praises the quoted player: (I know Centurion balance is a hot button topic - people feel strongly one way or the other. However, even experienced (and very good) players like AntinioJ26 feel he needs adjustment.) Thank you for directing me to the forum rules and for being expedient - I will try to conform my posts to those rules as I have above and request the thread stay open to discuss the quoted recommendations (thank you!):
-stam reduction
-light parry nerfs
-wall punish nerfs

[Antonioj26]

I know Centurion balance is a hot button topic - people feel strongly one way or the other. However, even experienced (and very good) players like AntinioJ26 feel he needs adjustment.

(source for full discussion: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-in-1v1/page13)

Jiblet: "However, each have acknowledged problems with the cent -even Antonio. "I've extended the olive branch to you and even agreed with you on what needs changing with centurion (stam pool, wall stun, light parry punish)." (source: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-mid-air/page8)

Antonio: "That's very dishonest of you to take my extending the "olive branch" quote out of context. Here I thought we were finally getting somewhere."

Jiblet: "Out of context? I provided the link to the original post. If you would like i can provide more context from the very same page if that clarifies your position. . .
When I said that your balance changes should be based on how you feel and not a way of "extending an olive branch," you replied (on the very same page):

"The nerfs weren't the olive branch, the nerfs have always been how I felt. I got a lot of posts so it would be hard to find but from the very beginning I've said the exact same thing before I even ran into you. His stam pool is too high, his light parry punish is too strong, and his wall stun is too strong."

source: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-mid-air/page8

To mods- this is a neutral post about recommendations Jiblet, AntonionJ26, and I feel should be made to centurion using only quotes from out discussions and should not be construed as a "call out thread." The only original language is the first 2 sentences, one of which praises the quoted player: (I know Centurion balance is a hot button topic - people feel strongly one way or the other. However, even experienced (and very good) players like AntinioJ26 feel he needs adjustment.) Thank you for directing me to the forum rules and for being expedient - I will try to conform my posts to those rules as I have above and request the thread stay open to discuss the quoted recommendations (thank you!):
-stam reduction
-light parry nerfs
-wall punish nerfs

This is quite honestly the most pathetic post I've ever seen, and this next one takes second place. http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...0#post12867730 This is clearly a veiled attempt to name and shame me and you misspelling my name in different ways every single time helps point to that too. Don't worry though, I don't mind I think it's hilarious. Probably the dweebiest and wormiest thing I've ever seen on these forums and I can't help but laugh.

[Jiblet2017]

I definitely agree with these changes and really don't mind being quoted (I did say these things after all). I would just add that in addition to the thre nerfs recommended by Ant, there seems to be some issues with Cents tracking (which seems to be a little more forgiving for the attacker than other characters). Maybe this is just an animation issue and lots of people disagree that it is even an issue. Still, I just wanted to bring it up.

[CandleInTheDark]

You do realise that all you have done is make prettier exactly what the forum mod locked your last thread for, yes?

[TheGoop711]

This is quite honestly the most pathetic post I've ever seen, and this next one takes second place. http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...0#post12867730 This is clearly a veiled attempt to name and shame me and you misspelling my name in different ways every single time helps point to that too. Don't worry though, I don't mind I think it's hilarious. Probably the dweebiest and wormiest thing I've ever seen on these forums and I can't help but laugh.

I am glad you got a kick out of it AntonioJ26! (sorry, didn't mean to misspell your name - just a lousy typist and like to abbreviate - as i did with Jiblet's name).

I also apologize for my origional post -as the mods correctly pointed out it had nothing to do with the balance discussion I wanted to get at.

Since you have so many well written posts, would you mind weighing in on your quoted balance recommendations? Has your opinion changed in the past 1.5 weeks or do you feel the same way with respect to those 3 points? Is there anything else you would like buffed/changed?

And thank you for the response jiblet- ill search for some tracking threads, but have notices some spin pins during my time.

Thanks for the discussion guys

[TheGoop711]

You do realise that all you have done is make prettier exactly what the forum mod locked your last thread for, yes?

While the first post focused on the drama i linked to, the mods pointed out that was against forum rules (and I agree- thanks FedEx!).

This thread took out any "calling out" language, praised antonio's seeming insight into game mechanics, and focused on his concise balance recommendations. Most of the thread is simply quotes.

Again, I apologize for the original thread. It was a bit immature to prioritize drama over balance discussions, and ill definitely avoid it in the future!

Do you have any recommendations for cent? Changes? Nerfs? Buffs? Fixes?

[Antonioj26]

I definitely agree with these changes and really don't mind being quoted (I did say these things after all). I would just add that in addition to the thre nerfs recommended by Ant, there seems to be some issues with Cents tracking (which seems to be a little more forgiving for the attacker than other characters). Maybe this is just an animation issue and lots of people disagree that it is even an issue. Still, I just wanted to bring it up.

Pretty disappointed in you jib. You know when I read this mans original post a very very tiny part of me thought that may have been you but then I said to myself there was no way you would stoop that low, but now it's really hard to tell. For the most part I consider you reasonable and intelligent even if we disagree on a ton of things, but there's no way you read this post and thought this individual was wanting to talk about centurion changes and not call me out. In the original post before Fred edited it he even said he would tarnish my reputation which is hilarious, I'm not sure of reputation I have that can be tarnished.

[Antonioj26]

While the first post focused on the drama i linked to, the mods pointed out that was against forum rules (and I agree- thanks FedEx!).

This thread took out any "calling out" language, praised antonio's seeming insight into game mechanics, and focused on his concise balance recommendations. Most of the thread is simply quotes.

Again, I apologize for the original thread. It was a bit immature to prioritize drama over balance discussions, and ill definitely avoid it in the future!

Do you have any recommendations for cent? Changes? Nerfs? Buffs? Fixes?

Now I'm almost certain this is jib, I'm blown away by this. Honestly you are insane my friend, please seek help.

[TheGoop711]

Pretty disappointed in you jib. You know when I read this mans original post a very very tiny part of me thought that may have been you but then I said to myself there was no way you would stoop that low, but now it's really hard to tell. For the most part I consider you reasonable and intelligent even if we disagree on a ton of things, but there's no way you read this post and thought this individual was wanting to talk about centurion changes and not call me out. In the original post before Fred edited it he even said he would tarnish my reputation which is hilarious, I'm not sure of reputation I have that can be tarnished.

Please try to keep discussion focused on the balance changes you recommended! Thank you!

I am sure your reputation is stellar sir - and I see you have been a member for quite some time. Thats why I wanted to see if you have any nuance to add to your recommendations.

For example: How do you think the dvs could best go about implementing a parry punish or wall bounce nerf?

Do you think that the stam pool should be lowered by 10 points? 30?

Should he be compensated with buffs to other area's of his kit (like speeding up jump attack?)

Thank you!

[Antonioj26]

Please try to keep discussion focused on the balance changes you recommended! Thank you!

I am sure your reputation is stellar sir - and I see you have been a member for quite some time. Thats why I wanted to see if you have any nuance to add to your recommendations.

For example: How do you think the dvs could best go about implementing a parry punish or wall bounce nerf?

Do you think that the stam pool should be lowered by 10 points? 30?

Should he be compensated with buffs to other area's of his kit (like speeding up jump attack?)

Thank you!

Have I made you lose your mind? I'm so sorry jib. You win, buddy. Cent needs a ton of nerfs. Honestly it's just an internet argument you don't need to do all of this.