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[Kaijudub]

If warden is to remain even slightly viable against the new classes in the game he needs his nerfs rolled back. His easily punishable one dimensional play style in comparison to the Gladiator for example is painful.

Discuss.

[Dude_of_Valor]

If warden is to remain even slightly viable against the new classes in the game he needs his nerfs rolled back. His easily punishable one dimensional play style in comparison to the Gladiator for example is painful.

Discuss.

What are you struggling with against the new classes as a Warden???

[Kaijudub]

What are you struggling with against the new classes as a Warden???

Only the fact that Glad does everything a warden can do yet better and faster. Warden cancels sb to gb and people moan its op. Glad can cancel pretty much everything he does for days and still has stamina for weeks but it's fine.

Wardens mix up in anything but low level play is non-existent, he was over nerfed and now is no fun to play and not remotely competitive, not that he ever really was.

[Dude_of_Valor]

Only the fact that Glad does everything a warden can do yet better and faster. Warden cancels sb to gb and people moan its op. Glad can cancel pretty much everything he does for days and still has stamina for weeks but it's fine.

Wardens mix up in anything but low level play is non-existent, he was over nerfed and now is no fun to play and not remotely competitive, not that he ever really was.

I agree the Warden has little official mix-ups, but then so do many of the vanilla classes compared to the new.

As for the Gladiator I have beaten most by either using top light a lot, or keeping distance. Also if they seem to use the toe poke a lot, dodge back then go straight into a SB into a double side light.

Overall until more kit is added to a Warden, you will need to come up with your own mix-ups, and not be predictable with him (e.g. feint a heavy then dodge sideways into a SB into a double light. Regather stamina and do that again but throw a zone this time or even dodge into SB into GB).

[Kaijudub]

I agree the Warden has little official mix-ups, but then so do many of the vanilla classes compared to the new.

As for the Gladiator I have beaten most by either using top light a lot, or keeping distance. Also if they seem to use the toe poke a lot, dodge back then go straight into a SB into a double side light.

Overall until more kit is added to a Warden, you will need to come up with your own mix-ups, and not be predictable with him (e.g. feint a heavy then dodge sideways into a SB into a double light. Regather stamina and do that again but throw a zone this time or even dodge into SB into GB).

I'm not asking for tips to beat a completely OP character, but thanks for the consideration.

[Vasher.]

I'm not asking for tips to beat a completely OP character, but thanks for the consideration.

You're here talking about an OP character...I can beat Gladiators far easier than I can against Cent (especially in Dominion / 4v4). Everyone jumps on the OP bandwagon with new Heroes yet forget the worst of all...Centurion. If Gladiator hits you once...you don't lose half your life (or more) in an animation. Sorry, both new Heroes are fine where they are. Worry about the more pressing matter.

[Tundra 793]

If warden is to remain even slightly viable against the new classes.

You say new "classes", plural. You've outlined why you think the Warden is inferior to the Gladiator, but what do you struggle with against the Highlander?

[CoyoteXStarrk]

If Warden were EVER to return to spamming crap-pile he was before then the playerbase would shrivel more than it already has.


Anyone who is even PARTIALLY capable of using the Warden can still WRECK with him.

[Kaijudub]

You say new "classes", plural. You've outlined why you think the Warden is inferior to the Gladiator, but what do you struggle with against the Highlander?

I actually mean against the 4 new characters. Admittedly Highlander isn't actually that much of an issue. Although compared to warden his mix up game is far more interesting and is probably the character i will try and use before I give up. I also agree that all the vanilla characters are lacking but i've only played warden (rep32) so i can't comment on the game play of others.

my last sentance how ever should tell you all you need to know about warden.

"Wardens mix up in anything but low level play is non-existent, he was over nerfed and now is no fun to play and not remotely competitive, not that he ever really was."

IF you speak to any of the high level players, and i mean ANY they will agree that warden was never OP in the first place. Oh other than Tru3talent, who's crying probably helped to get the warden nerf.

[Kaijudub]

If Warden were EVER to return to spamming crap-pile he was before then the playerbase would shrivel more than it already has.


Anyone who is even PARTIALLY capable of using the Warden can still WRECK with him.

lol cool story bro.