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[Vakris_One]

first they need to have a heavy look at the Samurai faction before buffing or nerfing anyone else

the Samurai needs the most help and buff at the moment , they have no mixup and no opener

First they need to implement the defense meta changes and patch out unlock exploits. Then we can look at all the characters and see what needs balancing. The Samurai roster are currently the most f****d over by turtling. Once turtling stops being so rewarding I think a lot of the Samurai roster will actually appear to be very well balanced in a post-defensive meta world.

[Oupyz]

sorry but no we will not wait until season 4 for that ,

the hell with the defensive meta , let them buff the samurai lackluster roster and after work on their crappy defensive meta , knowing ubisoft the defensive meta changes will come with season 4 patch now that's 3 months at the earliest

thanks but no thanks

[Oupyz]

This is not the topic for Nobushi and HS.
No, Noushi doesn't have the kit of HL. That's the whole point of having different classes.
HS is the only skill that can negate every move in game except for GB. It's chain startup and can be used to feint lights. I don't know how you use it (if at all) but I can use as a *part* of strategy and often successfully, especially against parry-lovers. You don't need to spam it in order for it to be useful. You need to use it when there's a need for using it. Sometimes for defense and sometimes for offense.
And the same thing applies for HL and his stamina consumption.

I think you have problem with understanding that by making something too good you won't make it more balanced. You make it more OP. Most people have problem with understanding this concept because they want to make their favorite class better and better thinking that it would make it useful because after spending so much time with it they starting to see limitations. But there have to be limitations. That's balance. You can't be good at everything. That's how OP is born. And just because some class don't have proper balance and because of that they have OP moves doesn't mean you should drift in their direction.

you are arguing for the sake for arguing with me .

even the pro which are better and more understanding than you and myself admit that she is crap tier and can't be played at high level without her unlock tech
yet u still arguing thinking if they make her stronger she will be op :/

are you a bushi or samurai faction hater or you like to argue for the sake of it

[Oupyz]

the more u drift into the op moves direction u achieve more balance

Ubisoft it taken that direction exactly thats why we have warlord centurion highlander and glad , either they bring those classes down to earth or they will buff the rest of the roster if dlc is an indication of whats to come , i'am expecting buff not nerf

they dont have any other choice , either 1 or 2

[Draghmar]

you are arguing for the sake for arguing with me .

even the pro which are better and more understanding than you and myself admit that she is crap tier and can't be played at high level without her unlock tech
yet u still arguing thinking if they make her stronger she will be op :/

are you a bushi or samurai faction hater or you like to argue for the sake of it

I'm arguing because I like and because I think you're wrong. That's quite enough for me.
The same pros that argued that the parry aren't problem in this game? Because this is what I've read long time ago from the pro players...It's sad that you need to support yourself with someone's else opinion instead of using your own.
And yes, I think making her stronger will make her unbalanced like the 'tier' you're trying desperately force her into. I know she is your favorite. That's why I wrote about making 'good' changes to the class you like the most being tricky.
And if you'd read closely you would notice that Nobushi is my main from the very beginning...even from beta. The difference is that I'm not blinded by that.

Edit: You know that there is something called 'Edit post' and you can use it instead of spamming posts?

the more u drift into the op moves direction u achieve more balance

Ubisoft it taken that direction exactly thats why we have warlord centurion highlander and glad , either they bring those classes down to earth or they will buff the rest of the roster if dlc is an indication of whats to come , i'am expecting buff not nerf

they dont have any other choice , either 1 or 2

No, you achieve more OPs. You end up with the fight where the first one to perform his cheese/safe move win the fight.
And I really don't know how you ended up with HL being OP...when even your pro-gods says otherwise...Especially since you didn't even play it.
Also...there is always some more choices. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there.

[Vakris_One]

sorry but no we will not wait until season 4 for that ,

the hell with the defensive meta , let them buff the samurai lackluster roster and after work on their crappy defensive meta , knowing ubisoft the defensive meta changes will come with season 4 patch now that's 3 months at the earliest

thanks but no thanks

Well we can't go, "the hell with the defensive meta" because it is currently the thing that's poisoning all the water in the well. What's the point of focusing on improving the water flow if the water is still poisoned at the source?

They cannot continue to balance this game around a borked mechanic such as the defense meta. That's how we got the Centurion and boy isn't he a peach? As I said, a lot of the problems for the "low tier" characters are directly caused by the fact that those characters are particularly screwed over by turtling. Remove/reduce turtling from the equation and suddenly those characters will become more competitive without even a need to directly buff them.

[Oupyz]

anyway just to cut this none-sense arguing , the dev already said the buff are coming , and i say

hell its about time

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[SirRegisKeg]

Please ignore the ignorant ones like these.

Since people started noticing Highlander's ridiculous movement speed every confrontation that I've had that resulted in my opponents hp being critical has ended up with them running away and me being able to do absolutely nothing.

Seriously, the moment ANYONE starts running, as a highlander you might as well sit down and give up, it's too ridiculously slow..

So you're calling me ignorant because players run away from you? I don't know big you have played for honor that long, but use any slow character and if you actually play aggressive and not sit there like a **** waiting for parries you notice that most slow characters have trouble catching people who start running. That's not a problem with Highlanders move set, that's a problem with this thing called Cowards.

when players hp gets to the last bar they become cowards. doesn't mean Highlander needs a character breaking buff like some stupid speed boost. We can 1v1 and I promise I will catch you

[SirRegisKeg]

and to anyone too stupid to read and comprehend my first comment, I did not say For Honor is balanced as a whole..... I said Highlander and Gladiator are of the two most balanced characters in this game.

When I lose to people playing these characters I don't feel like it was cheap and gimmicky, I feel as though they out smarted me with better fighting.

Gladiator's mix up game isn't broken to where you make two mistakes and that cost you the entire round

[Draghmar]

anyway just to cut this none-sense arguing , the dev already said the buff are coming , and i say

hell its about time

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Would ended if those were actually Devs that said that and not only Community Representatives that doesn't have any more power then to redirect our whining to the Devs.
I think what the Vakris_One said is closest to truth - Devs waits with those changes for defense meta nerf to see how it will impact everyone.