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  1. #1

    Nerf Ash, and all 3 speeds alike, but especially Ash

    I looked for a thread similar to this one before starting a new one, but I can't find one even though this isn't an original concern.

    Ash is breaking your game right now, and the other 3 speeds right behind her. She is turning this game into a **** show similar to COD gameplay.

    Her movement speed is impeccable. She effortlessly can sprint, ADS, kill within 2 shots before an average player could get a shot on her.

    The hit box is too small, her gun is accurate, powerful, ranged, with a decent RoF. She literally has no blaring weaknesses. There is a wealth of player footage of her taking RIDICULOUS amounts of shots (so damage) and just walking it off after she murders you of course. It's embarrassing how long this has flown under the radar.

    Beware of the nay-Sayers, who think she is balanced because those are the people exploiting the imbalance 9 times out of 10. The same problem is frequent with, but not as consistent with Jager, Caveira, IQ, and Hibana. They all move unnaturally fast, Jager's peeking ability is nonsense given he has an AR, Cav's frame along with a buffed Suppressed pea-shooter, IQ's decent weaponry, small frame, and now FRAGS???? And Hibana's breaching ability associated with a small frame as well. What a mess you have made!

    I suggest decreasing either speed, or damage resilience further, increasing hit registry sizes for the small women frames, or even nerfing their weaponry as a start to fixing an increasingly obvious problem. It's a shame how we can nerf some operators into the dirt like Pulse or Blackbeard but this is necessary.

    Prime Example, not the only one though
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    I agree.
    3 speed operators are out of hand, especially Ash.
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    philbert.'s Avatar Senior Member
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    'Lesion" the new defensive operator slows them down
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    Ela and Lesion will take care of them. Frost, until now, is your best choice. Unless, you use strats like Castle-Pulse, Valkyrie-Castle.
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    You see its not about nerfing Ash and all the other 3 speed for what he is complaining about. Alot of the people i play with just want the speed defense balance fixed. Ive seen Caveira take 3 shotgun shells while she only shoots twice and done. Same with the other 3 speeds. The 1 armor portion is the real issue here. You cant have Tachanka take 2 shot to the knee from Blitz and thats it. Its just not balanced on that aspect.
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    Some people would say - "But the barb wire slows her down". Um, NO. Ash actually has a launcher that she can fire at all the barricades and barbwire you put down, so she can sprint in anyway. The speed at which she can strafe while holding a perfect ADS aim is also very OP.
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    UrbanRiot4's Avatar Banned
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    some dude who tried the new TTS said who tried it out all the 3 speed operators have been reduced meaning they can no longer sprint like they could before.
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    Originally Posted by MEW-DIE-NOW Go to original post
    I looked for a thread similar to this one before starting a new one, but I can't find one even though this isn't an original concern.

    Ash is breaking your game right now, and the other 3 speeds right behind her. She is turning this game into a **** show similar to COD gameplay.

    Her movement speed is impeccable. She effortlessly can sprint, ADS, kill within 2 shots before an average player could get a shot on her.

    The hit box is too small, her gun is accurate, powerful, ranged, with a decent RoF. She literally has no blaring weaknesses. There is a wealth of player footage of her taking RIDICULOUS amounts of shots (so damage) and just walking it off after she murders you of course. It's embarrassing how long this has flown under the radar.

    Beware of the nay-Sayers, who think she is balanced because those are the people exploiting the imbalance 9 times out of 10. The same problem is frequent with, but not as consistent with Jager, Caveira, IQ, and Hibana. They all move unnaturally fast, Jager's peeking ability is nonsense given he has an AR, Cav's frame along with a buffed Suppressed pea-shooter, IQ's decent weaponry, small frame, and now FRAGS???? And Hibana's breaching ability associated with a small frame as well. What a mess you have made!

    I suggest decreasing either speed, or damage resilience further, increasing hit registry sizes for the small women frames, or even nerfing their weaponry as a start to fixing an increasingly obvious problem. It's a shame how we can nerf some operators into the dirt like Pulse or Blackbeard but this is necessary.

    Prime Example, not the only one though
    https://youtu.be/UCcq8mijfT4
    Please no. I barely ever use any of the 3 speeds (except pulse), but they are significant to strategy but they are also easy enough to defeat. There are tons of bugs in this game, this is not one of them. Someone posted yesterday about how to properly reinforce walls as a team. I think part of the reason people don't like 3 speed ops is because they don't know how to rotate properly. I wrecked Ash just yesterday by rotating and shot her in the back
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    What really needs to be done, is to nerf strafing speed. Strafing in real life is naturally slower. The 3-speed operators shouldn't be able to zig zag back and forth like they do. This is NOT Call of Duty.
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    Originally Posted by LordCovfefe Go to original post
    Please no. I barely ever use any of the 3 speeds (except pulse), but they are significant to strategy but they are also easy enough to defeat. There are tons of bugs in this game, this is not one of them. Someone posted yesterday about how to properly reinforce walls as a team. I think part of the reason people don't like 3 speed ops is because they don't know how to rotate properly. I wrecked Ash just yesterday by rotating and shot her in the back
    well at least Ela and Lesion can counter them.
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