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Mate your such a little baby ahah, all you do is sook and cry, you actually make me laugh. Why would you love to meet me, have you got a crush on me or something? Stay away creep ahaOriginally Posted by Yourdevsrtrash Go to original post
why don't you roll away from a Lawbringer every time they shove then?? Use your little brain if you can kid
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Hahahahah got a bit of mental health issues do you? Have to troll on forums and bag on people to feel better? Really tells what kind of person you are. Freak. Lol talk about laughing. 😂😂😂😂😂 petty childOriginally Posted by Rep30Lawbro Go to original post
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IIRC, if you dodge the block shove (yes it's possible, as soon as you see a Lawbie block your attack, dodge sideways) it actually gives YOU a free GB. And again, Lawbie can't soft feint shoves and GB's like Warden can with his Shoulder Bash, so not really sure what you're talking about with this supposed 50/50.
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Hahaha like you are one to talk with a username like yours! I've seen in basically every post people ignore you or say how stupid your ideas are because you're so bad at the game you can do nothing but spam wow! Lol what kind of person I am, you still haven't said why you want to meet me so badly? What about that man, what kind of person does that make you? HypocriteOriginally Posted by Yourdevsrtrash Go to original post
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It's not that hard to beat a lawbringer if you just adapt. I've only been on here a few times but I'm pretty sure I've only seen this guy yelling to nerf other heros and gets volatile when others don't agree with him.Originally Posted by Rep30Lawbro Go to original post
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you need to calm yourself dude
Lawbringer has a lot he can't use against certain characters (or at least he needs to trick people so that he can counter it for gauranteed damage)
I'll talk about 1v1 situations (4v4 is a lost cause in trying to balance ganking while friendly fire is non existant)
Long arm is so easily punishable (dodge then gb), the only way I've seen it work is either with the effect emote and gb fient, which you could say is an exploit
his lights are not the fastest, all of the assasins have faster lights, plus warlord, nobushi (sides), his speed is about the same as warden, kensei, conq, cent, etc, the only one I can think of that his lights are faster than is maybe shugoki, but his lights are not interupted on block
his zone is so slow, it's bad to use it, due to it being easily parryable and not much damage
Shove is reactable btw, unlike warlord headbutt, valk sweep, conq quick shield bash etc, the only time it is guaranteed (sort off) is after blocking, though uninteruptable stance means you can still take damage, a simple side dash attack can punish this
LB has four options after shove connects (not all are worth using on certain classes), he can either, light attack, Heavy attack, wait or heavy feint (trying to bait for a parry) or GB
Light after shove is NOT guaranteed, anyone can dodge it straight after shove, if opponent can see it coming they can even deflect the light after shove, all assasins plus valk and conq can do this (you can practice this, I trained my noob friend to be able to do this with orochi) LB can counter their deflect attempt, but it doesn't always work and can get you punished. If LB goes for only a light, or light and heavy feint, then LB is open to GB. if shove hits you and you do not dodge after it, then the light will hit you, that's not guaranteed, warlords headbut into light is guaranteed, conqs quick shield bash into light is guaranteed, warden shove into light is guaranteed. if the opponent does anything else other than just stand there, you will get nothing or get punished
Heavy after shove is only going to hit if the opponent dodges and tries to counter with slow move (eg, raider dodges then gb, or warden dodges and tries to shove) any side dash moves that are quick enough can interupt this, this will be blocked most of the time, if the opponent does anything else, you will get nothing or get punished
doing nothing or feinting after shove is meant to try and bait the opponent to do a side dash light attack so that you can parry it, though not every class has one, if the opponent does anything else, you will get nothing or get punished
GB after shove will only get the opponent if they dodge to the side and do nothing else (this will work most of the time on everyone except for raider) if the opponent does anything else, you will get nothing or get punished
the victim can still possibly roll away from it after shove, negating any possible thing LB does, but reducing the shove victim's stamina and putting distance between you
best thing LB has right now are his parry options, Blind justice is only guaranteed on light parry, they will be making it feintable and a shove after hit, the shove bit is needed, since even though you blind them, there is enough recovery time after blind justice for any opponent to be able to see and block a light. best one to use is impaling riposte (this used to be very risky to use due to it being so slow) since he can either ledge you (if you like doing that) or slam you against a wall for a top heavy and mix up, light riposte has gotten better because of stun, make way is still not to great though, they did add uninteruptable and damage increase but it only hits people mostly on your right side (off topic, so this isn't a great counter to ganking, since it doesn't stop shove moves and not great range)
There are better character's than this dude, I'd say he's in a good place, but could do with an opener, the shove after block takes stamina and you might take damage doing shove, this is nowhere near as good other moves that others have like warlord full block stance, conq regular superior blocking and warden fientable shoulder bash which all have guaranteed punishes when used and are safer
why are you complaining about this in particular? warden's vortex is similar but much worse you either get a double light, can get gb or a Top heavy and is repeatable and can actually punish OOS victim since it isn't reactable due to being feintable unlike LB's. One LB light doesn't follow up with anything guaranteed or mix ups is not as bad as that, it's best to tank the light in most cases, LB's want you to do something else other than stand there so that they can get more damage from you and mixups
If your class against LB doesn't have any openers like kensei or berserker, then yes you will have alot of trouble against a skilled turtling LB, but this can be said about any class
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I forgot
I'll just list the options the shoved victim has after shove connects
1. counter gb or gb
2. dodge (then maybe gb)
2.5 deflect it if your class can
3. dash side attack, only cent, warlord and shugoki dont have one (warlord has an explot that allows him to counter gb when dodging)
4. light attack to interupt LB
5. parry or feint
6 just stand there (5 and 6 are similar)
7. roll away
the victim as well as the lawbringer has to guess right to damage you, if LB guesses wrong he gets nothing or punished, this is pretty fair in my opinion, compared to other classes which have much safer openers and more damaging, LB's shove is not an opener
the chances of LB getting the victim damaged after shove hits are 1 to 3 out of 5, the chances of LB getting nothing or punished after shove hits is 3 to 4 out of 5
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